Lord Nev

Would be a good moneyball type pickup for us. Would be our second leading goal kicker this year.

I would love to have a crack at getting this guy. He's contracted until the end of next year, but there's some talk he may be gettable this year for a Victorian club as WC try to get currency together to get Tim Kelly. Gut feel is the Eagles would be more keen on picks than players given the Kelly situation but I would guess our second round pick is already tied up in a trade for Langdon, and you could argue it might be overs for him anyway. What do we think we would need to offer up for WC to be enticed?

Sneaky chance that Hore may have a stint forward. Don't lock it in, but he was doing a fair bit of goal kicking at the captain's run.

I believe it was Jack himself that made the call about the return from injury, and that the medical advice at the time was he shouldn't play. From memory, he came out and admitted that when the injury resurfaced. My comments about him not playing was based around the assertion by others that he's playing injured. Seems to be a common consensus here so I'm just going by that info. I agree the culture has been terrible, absolutely no argument from me about that, and I absolutely love a lot of things about Jack, but just because he plays hard it doesn't mean he's doing anything to improve our culture. I'm not saying he is or he isn't of course. In the end, my only problems with him are his lack of directional leadership (not all his fault, but it's what we need out there) and his decision making, especially given he's the co-captain of a team with notoriously bad inside 50 delivery.

Gave me a little bit of hope. Among other things, he backs in Jones and Goodwin. "As bad as the Demons have been this year, there are still positives in the way they've played. Rarely have they been blown away. Often their midfield dominance simply hasn't been converted. Already there's been several off-field changes that should freshen things up, whether it be the departure of Brendan McCartney or strategy guru Craig Jennings. This year's struggles should expose some of the shortcomings that might have been swept under the carpet last year. Sometimes the internal analysis and self-assessment that comes with a poor season can quickly turn what were negatives into positives." It's not all doom and gloom: Demons can make finals in 2020

I actually don't mind what they've done with the socials this year, it's had a lot more personality and been more active than previously IMO. I just consider the website pretty much a write off tbh, so I'm not too bothered by it. They have done videos though. They did one for Dunkley with his brother and the one they put together for Baker with his Dad was absolutely sensational. Jay Lockhart debut video https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-03-29/debutant-jay-lockhart Marty Hore debut video https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-03-27/access-melbourne-marty-hore Oskar Baker debut video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFyqkHQeFwo Declan Keilty debut video https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-05-06/declan-keilty-jumper-presentation Kyle Dunkley debut video https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-07-05/kyle-dunkley-debut-surprise

Yeah, hope it doesn't cost us a home final...

To be fair, it may still be coming. A lot quicker and easier to make the little social gif than to put together a proper video and get it up on the website. Holding judgment for now.

Oh, yep, sorry should have clarified, I think he'll miss with injury, heard he didn't train today. Frost left the track early with some kind of ankle issue I think. Second hand info, so can't guarantee it.

Will replace Hunt from what I've heard. Plus, Frost a very small chance to miss and Hore could be a sneaky chance to play forward.

I'm sure we would be looking hard for small forwards and running types, I just haven't heard anything myself in regards to it.

Names I've heard enough noise about for it to be an actual possibility... Langdon - Can pretty much lock him in from what I've heard. 85% chance. Zak Jones - Not saying I want him necessarily, but there is noise. 50% chance. Ryan Schoenmakers - Apparently we've been keen in the past, not a big chance, but being looked at. 20% chance. Alex Keath - Not "chasing" him, but keeping an eye on proceedings. The belief has been the rumours have been more manager tactic. 10% chance. The 'chances' are just my guess so don't take that as gospel at this stage. There's been plenty of other rumours (Hill, Tomlinson etc), but I haven't heard much about anything else as yet.

If we're going down this road then: 1) He shouldn't be playing. He should be getting right for next year. 2) He should give up the captaincy given he's such a risk and is apparently not around for most of the preseason. 3) He should have learned from how he handled his injury the first time that he's being selfish if he doesn't listen this time. Trust is one of the biggest things in footy clubs, how much can we say we trust Jack to do all those things?

Imaging if we ruin our next preseason by playing injured players when the best we're hoping for is to finish 16th... Plenty of players could do Viney's role atm, it's not like we're short for inside mids.

Choco Williams anyone?

Rated as the single worst kick inside 50 in the league. Makes selfish decisions ie - coming back from injury. Haven't seen him once give meaningful direction to team mates nor read the flow of the game and make a change when needed. BuT hE bLeEds ReD ANd BlUe...

From a quick look, it appears the General has had the odd good mail in the past. So that, combined with the fact I've heard similar things (albeit third hand), means his comment should at least be listened to.

I'm a Frost fan. I love his efforts to chase, his willingness to create and his unique physical attributes. BUT, if we're totally buying into what Riewoldt is saying, surely that means we're looking at getting a first round pick for him this year given he's out of contract? Maybe even more? I mean, he's now ahead of two of the most highly rated defenders in the league, right? OR, maybe it's a shallow analysis? Maybe he's gotten better because he has players like May and Lever around him on game day, instructing him in reviews, competing with him at training etc. It's an intriguing one that he hasn't yet re-signed and things have been so quiet about it. I wonder if his contract status/offer is impacted at all by any potential rival interest in OMac?

You don't reckon the person responsible for strategy for one of the best strategical teams in the comp run by one of the best strategical coaches of all time isn't a good fit for our current vacancy in strategy?

Ummm ok then, Jennings is obviously staying.

It's just code for 'we know he's in the besties group with Goody and Todd so they'll be safe, just how we want it'.

Disingenuous? I merely posted facts in response to your post. Either your post was literal, to which my response answers it, or it was sarcasm, which makes it ironic you're trying to label me disingenuous. TBH not really interested in which it was. I just prefer to play a straight bat.

Or the MFC website? Is that gospel enough? https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-08-13/jennings-looks-for-new-opportunities

Do you take the official AFL website as gospel? https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-12/one-of-the-best-minds-in-footy-jennings-to-leave-the-demons

Not sure how many exactly, but yeah I know of a few that have goal kicking coaches. It's generally only a part-time role though.