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Everything posted by Rab D Nesbitt
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Love our song. I can't get through the Herald Sun firewall to read about the background of the other songs but I remember on hearing the Adelaide one my first thought was that it's the same tune as the controversial song called The Sash (my father wore) sung by both Rangers supporters and unionists in Northern Ireland. Usually accompanied by a flute.
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Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory
Rab D Nesbitt replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
For some reason a game against North at the 'G back in 1985 always comes back to me when the subject of close losses comes up. I remember we were up by less than a kick late in time on when the umpire waived on two or possibly three stick on holding the ball decisions against them on the members wing only for them to squeeze the ball down to Wayne Schimmelbusch (I think?) to kick straight and beat us by 1 point just before the siren blew. -
You're not wrong. That really is vomit inducing.
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I was living overseas when all that stuff went down and coincided with a time when footy wasn't at the forefront of my mind. I'm glad that it all fell over though. Supporting a club is an emotional investment first and foremost and an opportunity to ride the highs and lows with the rest of your tribe. Nothing beats that. As the Melbourne Hawks who's to say we wouldn't now have Jeff Kennett as our president and be playing four home games a year in Launceston.
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"I think most players would choose to play the game (midweek) rather than train." Damien Hardwick thinks the AFL could expand the fixture with more frequent games - permanently. Having been conditioned to watching football for ten months of the year I was surprised on moving here to find just how short an Australian football season actually was. A 34 game season, albeit with shorter quarters therefore sounds normal to me. Considering that all the Melbourne based clubs play out of two stadiums however I'd expect to see a lot more wear and tear on their playing surfaces. It may also make further expansion of the competition more problematic. Do you then go to a 36 or 38 game season or do we go back to a 34 game compromised draw? Jeff Kennett would love it as he could then sell eight home games a season to Tasmania and still have nine more in Melbourne. Ditto for North, negating the need for a phoenix club down there. If Gold Coast also increase their presence in the top end there may be no need for expansion at all.
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Essendon knock back AFL assistance in bid to remain independent. Dons knock back cash injection would've made a better headline.
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I'd imagine Alan Richardson will be asked for his two bobs worth on the subject.
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The Mark Neeld episode should be worth the wait.
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I tend to agree with Gerard Whateley on this one. It's all starting to smack of desperation and is only about saving the broadcasting deal now no matter how they try and dress it up. It all goes to show how close to the wind the AFL actually sails really but thankfully they can at least borrow at a low rate on the back of now owning the docklands stadium to try and ride out this sh@tstorm. At least we're not in the shoes of the NRL which really is a case of all fur coat and no knickers.
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Hawks president Jeff Kennett has proudly revealed they have the war chest to survive 2020 and told struggling clubs to lift their game. I'm not sure what pride there is in raking money in from gambling and depriving your membership of four home games a year for a big cheque from the Tasmanian government. It might have been more appropriate if he'd told struggling clubs to lift their gaming.
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From what I've read on this particular thread we're really making a distinction between members who might ask for a refund because their personal circumstances have suddenly become desperate as opposed to those that are getting no value for their spend. It's not unreasonable to think that the former are very much aware of the knock on effect this may have on the club and that they wouldn't be making that call unless their own situation wasn't equally as bad. It's also a dilemma that we should all be able to empathise with. On that basis then surely all of the contention should centre on the members that fall into the latter camp and to discuss whether their views really align with what many of us feel is a financial and emotional investment in something much greater than the sum of it's parts.
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LOL Just watched the clip and it sounded to me that he crossed over to Eddie at the end of what might have been a very long hard day for him. Given the time again he might have articulated his answer a little differently.
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The Virus, DeeLanders and looking after each other
Rab D Nesbitt replied to frankie_d's topic in Melbourne Demons
I'm a little surprised you could understand what they were saying. Up where I'm from we speak a dialect called Doric which is very distinct and anything south of Aberdeen just sounded English to me to be honest. Weegies (Glaswegians) however can have a really rough sounding tongue (the same as Rab) and even I have to concentrate to make out everything he's saying. If you've ever read any of the tartan noir novels by Ian Rankin, the main character DI John Rebus always calls Aberdeen furry boot town because we're always saying 'farraboots' which just means whereabouts? -
That’s a fair point Dr G. We can’t keep rolling out the fact we play at the G (who doesn’t these days) and we’re named after our city and hope that’ll save us. Money in the bank, a solid membership base and a successful football structure will go a long way to securing our long term future. Training on a paddock also gives an impression of impermanence so the sooner we can address that the better.
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I feel a little sorry for North Melbourne always being the team first to be discussed when it comes to talk of relocations. Sure it's frustrating always being beaten by them but that's our fault not theirs. Aside from two relatively brief periods in their history when they bossed the competition they've been trying to punch above their weight and have been pretty good at it for fifty years now so it surprises me that they haven't been able to build a bigger fan base over the course. That said with them already giving up four home games to play in Hobart each year they aren't far from a tipping point where they could almost be considered a side representing Tasmania and not North Melbourne so in that respect they can't be too surprised that their name is in the mix each time mergers or relocations are mentioned.
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Wilcard rounds? Best of 3 GF's? This from a governing body that wanted to do away with GF replays? I think someone needs to call for a time out before this three ring circus starts to grow legs.
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I think they are missing a trick by including hairdressers and barbers as essential services. Close that loophole and anyone in dire need of a hairdo, trim or dye job that has had to resort to a really bad home made alternative is far more likely to stay indoors and self isolate. It's fine for authorities to appeal to our moral conscience in this time of crisis but it's our soft underbelly of vanity that they really should be targeting to help flatten this curve.
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The Spectre of Private Ownership Looming Over AFL
Rab D Nesbitt replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Whilst I don't think private ownership is anything more than a media driven rabbit hole at this stage in a world of privately owned clubs I'd still like to think we'd be the Green Bay Packers of the competition. Supporter owned and not the latest plaything of some oligarch or middle east state that's big on oil but poor on human rights. Would we end up with a competition that's dominated by the rich or would it be like the A League where owners are disgruntled and frustrated by salary caps and a lack of a say in it's running? -
I for one would be lost to the game if we ever folded or merged. I could never mine the same depths of disappointment or reach the same fleeting heights following any other side.
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The Virus, DeeLanders and looking after each other
Rab D Nesbitt replied to frankie_d's topic in Melbourne Demons
Ha! I wasn’t sure if anyone on here would have heard of Govan’s finest waster. Never used a chip fryer myself as I’d be terrified of burning the house down. As long as I have access to good quality coffee, beer and craic during this break in proceedings I’m sure I’ll come out the other end with my sanity intact. -
Fair point Wellsy. Hopefully though it has all been documented on film to be edited and released at an appropriate time. It might be the last footage we get to see if the media dept has been stood down.
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The Virus, DeeLanders and looking after each other
Rab D Nesbitt replied to frankie_d's topic in Melbourne Demons
I work as part of a team that puts together bespoke safaris in Africa and we were told that we'll be going down to a four day week. With the world in lockdown nobody will be booking anything for quite some time unfortunately so that four days could end up being much less if things don't turn around relatively soon. I had made plans to go for an early morning swim each day off but now that the local pool has been shut indefinitely I'll be out on the bike riding the capital city trail to keep the serotonin levels up. If anyone happens to be out on the track early doors I'll be donning a mint green helmet with the little Dees bumper sticker placed discreetly on the back. Happy to stop for a coffee and chat (at arms length of course) in one of my favourite hole in the wall cafes along the route if you flag me down. -
Perhaps I've been spoiled by the recent preseason footage but it would have been good to have documented those 13 days as another video instead of a write up I think.
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Rhino - Russell Richards Bobby - Mark Withers Circum - Greg Sizer Franken - Jim Stynes (supporters called him this and he hated it) Sticky Fingers - Steven Icke Sugar - Greg Healy
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Hollywood - David Cordner. Given to him because he smoked Peter Stuyvesant cigarettes which supposedly all the film stars did at the time.