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Welcome to Demonland: Harvey Langford
Lord Neville X Flash replied to spirit of norm smith's topic in Melbourne Demons
Windsor has the ability to play in the middle - not sure if or when they will try it To me, he should be prime Tim Kelly/Josh Kelly type but with more toughness -
TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024
Lord Neville X Flash replied to Demonland's topic in Training Reports
Windsor looking huge (in a good way) Sky is limit for this kid -
Why are we suddenly likely to get Tauru? Seems like this year more than ever clubs will be putting up smoke and mirrors to get the player they want
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1. Lalor, 2. Tauru, 3. FOS, 4. Draper - then we take Smith with 5 When pick 9 comes up, if we like 3 players still available, we offer Smith to Richmond for 10 and 11 I am assuming this is possible/allowed, but havent looked at rules about trading on draft night
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I heard it from the horses mouth on Dyl and Friends podcast when Hogan went on - which was pretty recent (last 2 months maybe) That was the first I had heard, so might have not been public before then. But yeah he was desperate to play anywhere, and always loved Melbourne, so was very keen to come back. We pulled out and GWS threw him a lifeline.. the rest is history Edit: Just googled, GWS gave pick 54 - so that says it all really - he was gettable to the whole comp but no one wanted to touch him, despite him being only 25yo
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Imo you don't draft based on needs unless you are splitting hairs between players If a gun mid is best available at 9 we take them IMO. If we build a super deep and talented midfield, along with the A+ talent we already have on the list - Roo and Disco (maybe fit petty) could be good enough to make us a top 4 team again. Alternative to drafting a key: Build a great list that lacks 1 or 2 key positions, and then trade draft picks to get a proven player - (e.g. Most of our spine in the premiership: Lever, May and Brown) This will become even more viable from next year(?) when we can trade 2 years of future draft picks. Rather than gambling on a lesser player in the draft that almost certainty wont be ready to meaningfully contribute to a premiership until 4-6 years time We can also try to find a KP forward other ways: Jesse Hogan wanted to come back to Melb after freo and we pulled out last minute (horrible I know). Peter Wright was available for cheap trade Mihocek and Treacy were rookie draft Mitch Lewis Rd 5 in draft
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Anyone know where Gabriel Stumpf is projected to get drafted? He is key fwd that won 20m sprint and vertical leap at combine - so freak athelete - but I haven't heard him mentioned at all in mix of top Key Forwards. Would be great to snag him at end of the draft - but I assume he'd be gone
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2024 Player Reviews: #39 Koltyn Tholstrop
Lord Neville X Flash replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Impressed after tough debut Showed special glimpses in individual moments one that stood out was a rebound 50 where he stayed in the play and got multiple touches running through the middle. This surprised me, given his size. A few instances of him going in extremely hard, The two goals in a row at the G. Given his natural size/power, he could be anything - looks better than Trac did early days. Mentality and physicality is 10/10 - you can tell how much he wants to be a good footballer -
2024 NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER AND SELECTIONS
Lord Neville X Flash replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Not really relevant if Kako/Marshall get a bid before or after our picks. No Guarantee that pick 9 is a better player than pick 29. Hotton was projected top 10 pick, but had a knee injury this year. Get him at 13 and get to roll the dice on a KPP at 29 -
Don't have an issue with using 5 and 9, and I would be v happy with Tauru and best mid. But think its negligent not to entertain trade options. I think its likely we see some trades on draft night, so clubs have more certainty about players they will get Eg. If Melbourne really want someone at 5, but they go at 4, we might then trade down with Richmond
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I hope we make a play for Richmonds pick 10 and 11. Richmond have so many picks they might consider moving up. eg. Pick 5, future second (BRI) for Pick 10 and Pick 11. Could get something like Reid, Armstrong, Tauru ect with 9, 10 and 11. Or one of the big mids slide.
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If they both get back to health and near peak form in 2025, their value on the market will sky rocket - some oppo clubs will see them as the final piece to win a flag
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Picks after 20 have been a bit hit and miss for us in recent years: Bowey (good), Howes (good), Rosman (miss), Laurie (miss) Top 20 a lot better: Windsor (Great), Kolt (Looks good), Jefferson (?) I agree though, our trades for Hunter, Billings, McAdam, Grundy has failed miserably, I think the club will stop now. Although, Billings is okay for depth and I still hold an iota of hope McAdam could come good
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Welcome to Demonland: Harry Sharp
Lord Neville X Flash replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Probably 49 and maybe a late 2025 pick swap to sweeten the deal for Brisbane -
I think we need to remember that our list is good, We need quality not quantity at this point. We are not north/richmond/WCE Bring in a midfielder? You are going to be competing with Sparrow for a spot. Yes he was bad this year, but he's still a seasoned player with something to prove. Bring in 3 mids? They are not going to get opportunity without injuries. Same goes for most other positions - is a KPP going to dislodge Petty or Turner? I think not for a few years. Better to bring in 2 high quality players that can get opportunity and make immediate impact
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28 will slide into the 30's
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Sharp from Brisbane, maybe give a future 3rd or 4th. AMW deserves senior spot 3 draftees + Rookies/State league options
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I think this is too black and white. If we get Tauru or a gun mid or Armstrong, who then turn out to be great players, then it really doesn't matter where we finish next year. (If we finish bottom 4 it will look bad) Picks after 40 are not particularly valuable - some clubs are passing on rounds at this point.
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Welcome to Demonland: Pick 46
Lord Neville X Flash replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
I don't think GWS want 2024 picks - they generally try to have high picks each year, and they already have 3x first rounders this year. So makes sense for them to load up next year instead -
Welcome to Demonland: Pick 46
Lord Neville X Flash replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
We will have: 2024: 5, 9 and 49 2025: 2nd, 3rd (ess), 4th and 5th I guess we use 49 or future 3rd for Sharp, Derksen seems unlikely to be traded by GWS + lots of points for White next year -
Welcome to Demonland: Pick 46
Lord Neville X Flash replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
I hope we are loading up picks to get another first rounder, maybe even try to turn pick 5 into 7 and 8 from St Kilda. Imagine getting a Rozee, Butters, Dursma-esq trio to rejuvenate the club. We are giving everything to Essendon sadly -
Welcome to Demonland: Pick 46
Lord Neville X Flash replied to titan_uranus's topic in Melbourne Demons
Can always trade picks from 2026 if needed -
Any reason or just gut feel? I personally rate him highly, and think he would add a new dimension to our midfield. Also, think Cal Twomey is the most credible analyst considering his direct access to recruiters and list managers - and he thinks Murphy is top 5
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We could also consider trading our first pick for multiple first rounders. I'd personally do: - Freos 10 and 11 for pick 5 - St Kilda's 7 and 8, for pick 5, 25 and future first - GWS 15 and 16 for future 1st - Freos pick 11 for future 1st There seems to wildly different projected drafts, which makes me think having multiple top 15 picks is probably advantageous compared to pick 5 only. Murphy Reid for example is projected to go pick 3 by RookieMe, pick 5 by Cal Twomey, pick 7 by Zerohanger and Fox, 10 by Mongrel Punt, pick 11 on BigFooty mock draft, pick 16 by ESPN.
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Watching recent highlights, he doesn't look like hes been playing well. Not professing to know much about him or his fitness, but didn't look to be able to break away from stoppages or break tackles like a number 1 draft mid. Also coughed the ball up a couple of times in the game I was watching. But again, very small sample size. Stats say he averaged 11.5 disposals for Vic Country this year, not sure if he played full game time. Last season avg'd 16 touches. Compared to Ashcroft avg 25.5 disposals and a goal for Vic Metro this year