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equal 2) we get a poor deal but take it so as we get May

If he stays for 2019, due to Freo and Melbourne not agreeing to a trade, then what happens? How does trading an un-contracted non-free agent work?

I am not arguing that he is a free agent... just saying why people may assume he is. People on demonland get so salty over the littlest things.

Probably because the way the story is being reported, i've heard trade radio say freo may hold off a year and then Hogan can walk from melbourne.

Is he not a restricted free agent at then end of 2019?

Freo offer pick 5. Melbourne apologise to Hogan and say we are happy to let you go but freo are low balling us. We have a crack at the flag with Hogan in 2019, telling him it's only one more year until he's a free agent. In the meantime, collingwood has no bargining chips for May, nor does Hawthorn, so May probably stays at GC for another year. At the end of 2019, Hogan might leave, or maybe we convinced him to stay. Further May becomes a free agent and there is 0 chance he stays at GC. So we can pick up May for free and have a chance at retaining Hogan. We also come out looking like the good guys, as freo are the ones not willing to pay his worth. Furthermore, Kennedy may retire so WC become a big player. We hold the chips here, for once. Hogan is not at odds with the club at all, and if he had to play one more year here, he would suck it up and even possibly enjoy it.

We need to keep AVB desperately

Pick 5, 6 and Hunt for pick 1?

I personally disagree, in the prelim we gave our defenders 0 chance by turning it over in literally the worst spots on the ground. We made it through to the prelim without our number 1 defender in lever. Plus Omac and Frost will continue to improve, i'm particularly optimistic that lever and the best of Omac/Frost can hold down the key positions. We got destroyed by hawkins that one game, but he was getting perfect delivery, kicking it over his head and from the boundary. I think our team structure/game plan and mental maturity is our area of most improvement. We still need to develop the true ruthless winning habits that the great sides have. I don't think May is the key to our success, i'd rather continue to secure this dynasty by going to the draft, we are in a position to compete for the next 5-8 years IMO.

KK more important than may for mine. Jetta Frost Hibbo Salem Lever KK Omac, Hunt, Smith, Wagner, Petty all improving in the VFL, vying for an opportunity. I'd be super happy with this backline, plus get in pick 5&6 in the "best draft in two decades". Plus with no Hogan and May we will have enough cap space to have a real crack at Gaff or Kelly.

Melbourne may be making freo sweat to ensure we get pick 5 & 6

I see him as a depth player, so when we have a full team he will probably be in the VFL. But we will inevitably have some injuries, and in those cases he would be a good back-up pressure fwd. However, he may recapture his best form as well, and be a best 22 player again. But i think a good depth player is more realistic.

Garlett hasn't lost his speed, with Bugg, Kent and possibly AVB going out i think we need him for our depth in the forward line. He could have a really strong pre-season, and play 11 good games for us

i feel like everyone has been very specific when talking about picks...

Best case scenario for mine would be, GC hold onto may, we get pick 6 and 10 and get two victorian boys. Then get may for free next year. I trust lever and Omac/Frost to be good enough if the rest of the team show up.

I doubt we would offer 2 first rounders, maybe pick 10 and a second rounder for May and KK

May holds little power in the situation. If GC don't get an offer they respect, they could let him sit out a year and get pick 2,3 or 4 in compo when his contract finishes. Even if he chooses collingwood, its unlikely the pies can appease GC. Furthermore, GC are viewed as a weak organisation, they will be keen to put a line in the sand to save what little reputation they have left, May won't be let go for anything less than a top 10 pick, if not top 7.

I don't think Sydney have a particularly high 1st rounder, so we are more than likely in the box seat for May.

Only issue with that is speed against small line ups, i.e. richmond. Frost adds versatility, and with May and Lever being good kicks, frost would be the only poor kick in the backline. I think we are too slow with Omac, May and Lever

I want May in our team, but i don't want to give up a top 7 pick. If GC play hard ball and demand pick 6, i say we leave it. Hopefully, our pick 10 will be enough to get him over the line. But GC would stand to get a top 5 compo pick next year, so they may not give him up for pick 10.

Its delusional to think we will get pick 5, 6 and brayshaw for hogan.

Best Case scenario IMO: We get pick 5/6 and 10 from Freo. pick 10 plus other pick for May and KK. We end up with a "super 7" 18 year old from VIC, either Bailey Smith or Ben King, May and KK.

Unfortunately GC would stand to get a top 5 pick for may if he left next year under free agency... so they may play hard ball. I personally dont want him that badly, but MFC seem very keen

I think Hogan to GC isnt out of the realms of possibility, they could make him the highest paid player in the AFL if they really wanted him. But i cant see any situation were we end up with picks 2 and 3, and may and KK. We would maybe get pick 3, may and kolo for hogan, 2019 1st round plus other picks. I don't think we could convince any of our players to go to GC i.e. tyson

How would we end up with 3 and 5? gold coast will have pick 2 and 3 will they not?