Engorged Onion

The conversations on here blow my mind sometimes, as they're always versions about where someone got picked - and everyone elses expectations of how they should be playing due to where they got picked. As though those outside the club and the rest of AFL world, know what level 'said player' 'should' be at - based purely on where their own personal expectations of what progression or potential looks like... its a bit of laugh really...

Only if you want it to fit a particular narrative @DV8

maybe it's all scripted (just like the truman show) - tanking is in the headlines again, we are paying our penance in 2019 and will be a story of redemption in 2020...

Like Trac in this picture from his WetnWild Trip?

Training Standards

Bump https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/season-may-be-over-for-saints-key-forward-20190430-p51igc.html For mine, Petracca is and always will be a burst player... there are far too many expectations on him to jag 25+ posessions each week and jag 2/3 goals. Imagine the meltdown on here if we got McCartin! There are busts, and then there are guys that go pretty well most of the time who aren't Jordan DeGoey.

Hi Lad's and Ladies - I'm keen to organise a regular monthly catch up to gripe (and on the odd occasion celebrate) about all things Melbourne down this neck of the woods. I can't say I know too many Melbourne supporters - but if anyone is keen for a meal and a drink on a regular basis and have a version of 'therapy' - let me know. The only thing would be that the veil of anonymity would be gone...which perhaps isn't a bad thing.. Pm if yer interested.

and? Be aware of conflation.

Love the endeavour... ...though it's not really a curse though, is it.

Fair suck of the savaloy @WERRIDEE, it's repeated ad nauseam - drafting is ALWAYS a lottery, some come on better, and some come on worse than expected. Although, in the interest of fairness, perhaps you can start a topic on your best 22 that we 'should' have had, instead of our current best 22? That'll keep us all occupied until 2019 season is over...

I hope you insert a reference to drafting from Casey in every single post, just to reinforce your own inanity...

Just like you need to control your penchance for CAPSLOCKING ?

Is wattsy playing?

nice acknowledgment of some truth's about surgery and the impact and flow on's that it has... I for one don't believe we have overrated our list with the best 22... there is always refinement for their skills, and there is always deadwood amongst the depth players which need to be turned over... but the surgeries etc has been significant in how we play.

apologies - I wasn't having a go at you - more of an acknowledgement of a disappointed reality of Jayden

just like your anointed fave player?

this isn't really a comment on Yze - but surely he is not the only one with 'intellectual property' on how to kick to team mates or kick for goal accurately?

Erm, are you suggesting a media conspiracy?

Extremely briefly - Confidence comes from the execution of task first... good (or bad) feelings always come after the action.... Yet, coaches and players buy in to the need for confidence...confidence just makes things easier.... because if you believe you need confidence to execute, what happens when you dont have confidence (your execution goes to [censored], as you are not task focused).... more Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in the club please Mr Williams...

Please let me know how is someone who has no direct link to a club's acceptance or non acceptance of 'mediocity' - part of the teams problem?

being a pedant, but it aint Buddah - it's Steveo

With all due respect @stranga, what does that even look like? Kind of reminds me of the hollowness of David Warner fully apologising re: Joe Root and telling us all he has 'taken full accountability' without actually doing anything more than saying those words.

I presume you are in agreeance @praha...

Valid point @Damo So perhaps Goodwin in his pressers, detailing how surgery has impacted on fitness, which impacts on availability of athletes which impacts on roles which impacts on running patterns which impacts on available strategies whilst unfit which impacts on technique which impacts on 4qrt efforts which impacts on confidence which impacts on execution which impacts on trust in others which impacts on subjective things from the fans such as , belief, hardness, desire of said team, players etc... could be a useful thing?

me? or that's how you would respond?