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Practically speaking, with TMAC done for the season - I assume Preuss goes forward. Does that mean Weid gets the no 1 or no 2 backman? I actually think Weids job will be harder through the lack of TMacs presence. so I for one won’t be judging a poor output too much from him because of this circumstance

I agree with the first statement, but of course, that will never be said publicly Secondly - Perhaps they don't (but that might make YOU feel better). They know this all ready and will change things, which in particular looks like personnel, refinement to game plan - which only means in the off season. Winning premierships is a process of refinement

@Rodney (Balls) Grinter - have a listen to Goodwin's press conference - he directly address's Preuss's development...

I'd recommend anyone wanting to get a sense of Goodwin, or perhaps doubts his care and passion as demonstrated by how he performs in the media to watch todays press conference. He is succinct, open and acts with humility. Further, he dissects the need to be adaptable considering the ever-changing circumstance of games (no plan b - i hear people scream). It's a good good listen.

it's no excuse

don't you know that they're no excuse?

Petty potentially... concussion

on cue - more of that sledging please @whatwhatsaywhat

Does this mean Dew has 'lost the players'?

I wouldnt let May, Oliver, Gawn, Preuss, Jones or Viney marry my daughter... Marty Hore however...

How about this. Coaches know to the nth degree players current capacity due to all the metrics they have - and will not waiver from the game style as they understand that the players in 2019 because of fitness/injury/preason cannot actually polish off the game style. BUT rather than revert to another game style for the sake of one year- understand the bigger picture of refinement of numerous seasons. It is US supporters who take things out of context - whom look at things in one year cycles, or get emotional over things in an even shorter amount of time particularly when we are losing, and lose sight of the bigger picture.

Do you take on the information that these clubs have not been hit with the severity that we have?

#stopmakingsense ?

mmmm imagine projecting your own thoughts on to players.

I agree @Mazer Rackham Dare I say it, but CP5 looks like he could have a break out game and announce he is a superstar like Charlie Curnow that Lyon, Bristle et al, have banged out about since his draft year.... But seriously, he is playing very very good football at the moment.

Whoa @Ethan Tremblay- that wasn't a serve at you- just a 'pithy' bit of psychobabble... I did toss putting drinks consecutively throughout

Ahhh the 7 stages of grief as a football supporter Shock and Disbelief Verbally execute the coach/game plan/development Anger - hence Blame the Umpires/free kick count Depression, Lonliness, Reflection Think of Who we can Trade Acceptance Drink

folk cannot see the nuance in sport sometimes...

He's creating space for TMAC... or would you like all passes to go to Weid....or would you like all passes to go in between them?

Nah @chook fowler - held to different standards.

I feel sorry for Max, get's a contract to write stuff - and the staff writers come up with 'concepts' throughout the year... it'd be bloody hard work.

No Howe? I presume he was internally sanctioned for making Stephenson ‘self report’...

Ahhh, hey Matty, I thought you'd pop up and move the goal post. That wasn't the initial argument. Anyhoo - It's around 1 a year for the last decade (non top 10 draft picks)...is that enough...mmm I'm not sure - however I am also not sure of the average across all clubs, to see what an industry standard is. Edit: (thanks for the kick up the ar$e @drysdale demon to do a little research) We're at 1.1 per year Randomly, ill pick Richmond and WCE, BRIS and HAWTHORN over the last decade and their drafting and who would still be on a list within the AFL system. RICH Grimes, Ellis, McIntosh, Castagna, Rioli, Broad, Bolton Graham, Higgins (9)/10years= .9 WCE Darling, Lycett, McGovern, Hutchings, Sinclair, Sheed, Barass, McGovern, Cole, Veneable, Rioli, Waterman, Ryan Petruccelle, Allen (15)= 1.5 BRis Harwood, Hanley, Lester, Yeo, Golby, Aish, McStay, Cutler, Andrews, Mathieson, Hipwood, Witherdan, McInerny, Bailey, (14) =1.4 HAW Duryea, Suckling, Smith Puopolo, Hill, Breust, Sicily, Howe, Burton, Glass, Morrisson, (11) =1.1 So the average from these 4 clubs is 1.2 = Melb's is at 1.1 *happy to argue a handfull of players in or out of for any club... So what do I take out of this, well, Melbourne as a club aren't far off premiership winner, contenders and wooden spooners in their capacity to develop players. I think it still reinforces my argument that all clubs lament choices made, or players looked over, none more or less than any other.

The same could be argued for any other club, looking at any other team including Melbourne... it's a redundant argument... For mine - these are players that are currently listed (and not) that we have nurtured and are/could be on the list (not necessarily the best 22) that Melbourne have developed.... OMAC TMAC GAWN HOWE KENT HARMES HUNT JETTA ANB J SMITH HANANN

mmm, sadly i have felt that to be accurate for the last 20 years... sometimes more pronounced than others @Clintosaurus