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I like the sentiment Dee Tention, but you can't play a match with 13 players

TV coverage? I checked the online guie and it says Carlton v Hawthorn is on Foxtel

Wheels deserves to be a 200 game player, absolutely cruelled by injuries. But unlike some other players, has managed to stake his claim as a quality and necessary player for the club over the years

Melbourne Les BAMBLETT (11), Sean CHARLES (47) Scott CHISHOLM (18) David COCKATOO-COLLINS (9) Donald COCKATOO-COLLINS (2) Aaron DAVEY* (97) Phil EGAN (1) Jeff FARMER (118) Fabian FRANCIS (1) Colin GRAHAM (35) Eddie JACKSON (84) Andy LOVELL (121) Shannon MOTLOP (10) Byron PICKETT (29) George SIMMONDS (4) Isaac WEETRA (2) Matthew WHELAN* (140) Austin WONAEAMIRRI* (18) Here's my link Didn't know Lovell was indigenous

Just trying to find the stats...David played 2 and Donald played 9. Not sure if this site is any good, but it may be able to help you AborginalFootball.com.au

We had both Donald and David Cockatoo-Collins

No prior "Engagements" that day, I'll be there

Sorry jjj but i had to laugh, he's not a bad player he's just been out of form his entire career

3-19, you can't include pre-season

Bloody hell

17 needed off 21, one wicket in hand. You've gone early Mont

Don't know what it is about Vics and choking

Didn't say I was angry, just said that I hate it

I'd rate Haddin's batting above McDonald's, pretty funny all those people that wrote him off during the Indian tour. Go Vics!

I remember another occasion was watching a few of the boys coming off the field after one of our amazing AAMI stadium performances, laughing with the opposition. Hate it

There you go

How could a bank not make money off 6 million dollars?

Haha, I'm sold. Did he barrack for us as a kid, that's all that's missing. Hopefully he can become that player, IMO all he needs is to get his head straight. He seems to drift in and out of games and makes silly decisions, but with good coaching hopefully that can be eradicated. He was also first for bounces, that's right, Sylvia the flying midfielder. Let's not let hyperbole get in the way of things, in 70 matches he's kicked 4 or more goals...once (4). Hopefully we can see an improved year from Colin, and 28+ of his teammates. For the record, I think you should use "IMO" when stating your opinion as it sounded like you were trying to state facts instead of an opinion

You're right, it is time to take off the glasses. Your rose-coloured glasses. Indeed those stats, which you yourself don't seem to believe in, are the only things you've brought up in his defence. How is he top ten? What position has he cemented? These are easy questions that those defending Sylvia continually avoid

Also, if you're going to get hit in the head with a handbag by a 22 year old male, it'll be at a Saints game

Green? Garland?

Essendon - Scum Tigers/South Australian AFL supporters - Ferals

I love when people say "stats don't mean much" then make an argument based solely on stats. No doubt you will refute as "simply stats" whatever I now say. You are correct, he was in the top 10 for many stats, and you are also correct in that stats are meaningless. If you looked at the top 13 at the club for kicks, handballs, disposals, marks, Tackles, Goals and Disposal Efficiency (6 aspects) it features these players: Sylvia (6), Wheatley (4), Green (6), Bruce (6), Morton (5), McDonald (4), Mclean (4), Jones (5), Bate (6), Bell (4), Bartram (4) and Miller (4). Obviously as you can see, the same 10 players feature in the top 13 in basically every category at the club, if you play in-near the middle you will get the ball more (gee, who would've thought it). He's also 3rd for clangers, 25th for Disposal Efficiency. As you say, stats mean nothing. All we learnt from that is that the top ten at our club dominate most facets of statistics at the MFC, and the top ten in these categories helped us to achieve one of the worst on field seasons in recent years. But I'm glad that I can "now see that he is a top 10 player" Top Twelve at MFC Sylvia, Green, Bruce, Wheatley, Morton, McDonald, Mclean, Jones, Bate, Bell, Bartram and Miller - I don't think so. Stats means nothing. What position has he dominated?

No, it would not be about being correct if we're talking about at the end of the season. As I've already pointed out, you cannot rate potential. I am not saying how he will play this year. If, by the end of the year, he hasn't "stood taller" it will simply say to me that nothing has changed. That is how I see him at present, I hope he can step up this year (which, by the way, would not be proving me wrong either)

So it's white now is it?