Bay Riffin

4 of the best 20-25 players in the competition ? you sure about that ?

he is an elite kick as we all know. (Adelaide scouts may be reading wink wink)

Well I suggest you watch the Swans game a month or so ago and see if you think the same about Omac. If there was a pivotal point in our potential resurgence to make finals again, it was Omac dropping marks, being too slow to react etc which let them overtake us and sapped our confidence. and he's done it too many times. No way in demonland should he be retained. absolutely no way.

tomato sauce ?

we have their early second rounder !!

totally agree, we need pace down back.

There are a lot of academies etc. don't be surprised if its about pick 15 in the end.

i think you will find if he didnt have a bunch of poor games in the backline, he would have stayed there. His disposal in general play and field kicking is not AFL standard in my opinion. Handballing especially is very very poor if you take notice. He is however a decent kick for goal and has played some decent games up forward. He won't be much of a loss if we delist.

14 possies and 2 goals tonight. He’s a good snap. Was more involved in the play. Still looks raw in general play but credit where credit is due.

Who had the goal of making finals in 2020 ? In 2017 we missed finals by the smallest margin in history.

Yes and Dew did very little and now the AFL have thrown him unprecedented last chance draft gifts to help get them up the ladder. He’s proven nothing with ibis coaching.

Perfectly summed up. Under 12s stuff as they just waited to move it outside to waiting numbers. He can’t change it so we need to change the coach.

and zero imagination from the coach. Put him in the ruck, drop gawn up forward. anything.

how is it bull $%^& when you don't disagree with what I wrote ? we won contested ball. simple as that. go watch the third quarter. skills, skills and skills killed us tonight. I'm getting sick after every loss putting it down to effort. its not always that.We had chances moving forward and positioned well and we just kicked horrendously, even for us.

when he turns the ball over and they goal, he is a KEY reason we lost. He was terrible tonight. sometimes under the least pressure of all our players.

and we don't play Bennell. ?

he was shocking tonight and we just can't keep him on the list. Get Petty right, recruit another young tall and axe him. simple decision.

They didn't beat us in contested ball. We won more contests, and we had 11 more inside 50s. its down to two words. Confidence and SKILL. We come off a good win and play with no confidence in our kicking. Our skills are a shambles. We have to accept this with our one sided recruiting.

and i think that criticism has been fair. whats scary though is he had the ex saints coach helping him. lets see if he can repeat it.

Agree with a lot of this. I was flabbergasted when we drafted Sparrow after throwing everything at inside mids. How many can you possibly have ? And hearing Jordan is developing as an inside mid. Just sounds like insanity to me. Where do they think we were going to play them? Its like the coaching and recruiting staff can’t see what everyone else can plainly see. Langdon is now our most important transition player. And he needs more fast mates. It’s like we don’t value pace or kicking skills at all. kozzie defies that trend last year at the draft and perhaps they have woken up. But 5 years too late.

his progress looks good. I agree on the Todd Viney analogy, but it seems almost bamboozling we recruited an inside mid type after we got all the others in. If he comes good, and I think he might, where do we play him ? same may go for Jordan who Egan says is ready to step up now like Sparrow.

I loved Roos but he stuffed that up. he had a known quantity in Tyson who was never going to be an A grader as he was simpley too slow and not agile either. and an average kick. It gave us a short term solution but as an experienced premiership coach I expect him to covet those early picks and bring in experience elsewhere. and maybe sacrifice a game or two.

if you analyse his kicking its a low trajectory and his depth perception along with his action is poor for field kicking. kicking into the man on the mark is a specialty for him. but weirdly he kicks dead straight. In cricket parlance he's got the line right but his length is poor.

might be time for Jackson to be rotated out and that works out balance wise. don't run Jackson into the ground with these short breaks.

I would have Viney forward and rotating with Oliver, so we always have one of them in the guts. Increase Brayshaws minutes in the middle, potentially Petraccas as well and Harmes more midfield minutes and get him back to run with roles. A forward line with Viney/Oliver, Kossie, Bennell, Melksham, Fritsch, Hannan to add to the talls should do some serious damage. This team should be doing more but Goodwin has to change things up a bit.