John Demonic

The 9/10 winning streak and the last round away v Sydney win to make the 8 remains the highlight of their era. I'll admit, it had me jumping off cheering for the Tiges. They really got ass-raped a week later though

It's amazing how TMAC for TOM MITCH gets thrown up a month earlier and then all of a sudden you get people coming out of the woodwork saying their mates mate knows someone high up in sydney that can confirm an offer has been made.

I'm sick of comments like these. Drugs aren't taken in a vacuum, they effect performance. Their 2012 performance at the beginning of the year and the subsequent confidence they got from knowing they could beat everyone was a direct result of their performance being enhanced by drugs. This idea that they were building into a side that could challenge for a premiership without the asterix, that it was all wonderful jimmy hirds recruiting and coaching, is an illusion - It can never be seperated from the drug use and can never be attributed to their list. As you saw above, the 'subsequent confidence' is the important factor. If they hadn't of taken the drugs, they might not have gone on a winning streak in 12 and they might not have gone anywhere near the 8 in 13 or 14. Knowing you can beat everyone would do wonders for the confidence for years to come, and that's exactly how they cheated. If they hadn't of taken drugs, maybe they'd be on the bottom for 2 or 3 years and most of their list would be delisted players without any collateral.

Oh the benefits of employing an asst coach from a wooden spoon team. So much access. Maybe we should hire Adem the Yze as head coach and recruit some A grade kicking B graders that know the Hawk system. Brendan White cross come on down.

They'll start the bidding high so when they settle for demanding a 2nd round with a few hours before the deadline, we'll think its a good deal

Bombers fans already giving us a bit of stick. 4 years too much for a player who hadn't been in his career best form pre-ban. "Hibberd would be crazy to turn down 4 years" Wish him all the best as they like how he plays, but not worth the risk is the common line again. Obviously Hurley is the only one that could generate any emotional response from them (and me)

Is he contracted for next year and staying or will he be delisted? He hasn't played seniors for a long time

Can anyone confirm the rumour that Dean Terlich has requested a trade to Nunawading?

2017 first round and 2016 second round for Hurley and Hibberd ?

I will provide the final stamp of forgiveness on the reply to my comment! But Yes. I saw 1989 on Wikipedia and said he'll be 28 next year, wasn't trying to be a politician. Didn't realise it was at the end of the season. Put it this way. A first round and Brayshaw for a KPD that will be 30 at the end of 2019! Crazy if you ask me. Would we even get three full seasons in before he's 30? He'll start developing injuries at some point and may miss half a season at some point and then how long will he be able to keep big forwards quiet? Rance would have been the big fish to get at the end of 2014 with our pick 3 + Salem

Hope he hasn't added to the size of his ass in his year off, unless he wants to be our full back

He's 28 next year. Definitely not worth first round and brayshaw

It's confirmation bias in here thats the problem, he makes one or two BAD errors per match and everyone thinks he does it all day.

Hurley, Rance and OMeara to Melbourne, do some of you know that 17 other clubs exist?

Hurley Ok, If we can't get him then i'd like to see the recruitment of a mature aged player from another club that goes straight into the leadership group.

Call me crazy, but he seems like a player that gets depressed about not kicking 5 goals rather than disinterested in his club

You're not wrong there, i dont bother with the superfooty aka carlton, richmond, geelong podcast anymore. The first half of the year was entirely collingwood and richmond content all over the media. [censored] em. Blackout.

Tmac for Mitchell as an idea was posted weeks ago, your friend probably read it here.

We haven't improved? we're still in the hunt for the 8 at round 20. Even if the odds are 0.5% We've got four weeks to make up 16 points and 12-15% on the Kangas and Dogs

bet on GWS to win the premiership

Watts for dinner

Bernie has been hanging out with Sam Newman too much

GET JACK WATTS BACK ON THE GOALLINE

JACK MAKE MELBOURNE GREAT AGAIN WATTS

He's looked the most likely to be *the* leader