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Were you responding to me about WC/Hogan? The only premise is that they manage to get Gaff to us through some creative accounting, we make sure they get Hogan, (win/win) and then we use everything they can give us for Hogan in order to get Steven May and a leftover draft pick. Gaff & May is a win to me. -
Why not a Jesse Hogan trade to West Coast? Why is the thread exclusive to Freo? I reckon Jesse would take 200K unders to go to a successful club and JK is not getting any younger. Just spitballing and i'll confess my complete ignorance to trade discussion, so please correct any glaring errors. West Coast gain 800K in their cap from Gaff and the salary 350-400k? from Lycett combined leaving. Could it be a situation where they agree to not match Gaff, they pay a frontloaded part of Gaff's salary to ensure he ends up in Demon colours and our cap is not compromised, say 150k per year off a 1million per year 5 year contract. They get Hogan on a backloaded contract and the compensation pick from the AFL for Gaff (if any?) and we get their 2018 1st Pick + 2nd (or player instead) and 2019 first round pick. We then give pick 17, a second round pick and Frost and potentially Tyson to Gold Coast for S. May. We get Gaff, May & 2019 WCE first round pick. Obviously not an exact trade would go down, but something complex that could make it happen. West Coast make a godfather offer (what they have) to get Hogan, GCS accept unders so long as they get players and picks. I await ridicule!
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He's an immoveable nugget like mcGovern, it's more about what you have to get around than out reach. But if you're talking about the rare phenomena of 211cm forwards, you play your ruck or 2nd ruck loose deep or have a high leaping intercept like Lever and your kpb applying skillful body positioning.
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The kicking coach perhaps ?
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Agree with MAY acquisition. But what about offering pick 6 for dylan shiel and a late 2nd or mid range pick back and JT works his magic? Satisfies our immediate outside mid need. Do we really want to wait on the development curve of a pick 6 kid? Kelly, unless he's agreed in principle, then it's too much of a Longshot to plan around.
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Lycett / Vardy effect more like it - Dividing the field into two halves for each. I think we've been enamored by Gawns defensive work the most but also realise we've been robbed of fwd Gawn at same time. I think expectations of repeat Cox performances would be unrealistic on Preuss or Gawn Goodwin might be thinking of building the most fortress like defence possible next year with potential s. may acquisition and Gawn dropping back. It would explain the reticence to play Frost until late, no real trust. Really wants to shake up and improve our D after witnessing it [censored] the bed for 2 years
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I just hope we get Nth twice and he slaughters Majak & Goldfish. +3 on the reverse hoodoo ?
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The only answer is that we've been tracking him for a long time I reckon. As have some of us fans with the S May discussion thread on here for 2 years. He was a private school boy in Melbourne, so has his roots here. Probably with some of our players and staff.
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The Big Prussian! We've come full circle.
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"Will be available" is such a far off Longshot. If gaff nominates us, we make it happen. Simple as that. I'm a believer in seizing the moment in regards to quality. It's why our FD took Petty in the draft. We didn't need a developing kPD, but they couldn't believe Petty slid to our draft pick so we had to seize the opportunity. In this case we do actually need gaff.
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Preuss is an imposing figure, he can more than hold his own. Therefore we should be emboldened by Mason cox's performance in having confidence that one of our duo can be a strong marking forward for 70-80% game time. Lever and May allow Gawn to rest forward reliably instead of in defence too. Hogan, VDB, petracca given more time in middle as bulls as Weed TMAC & Preuss is enough. Then we alternate a new small forward in there with spargo, hannan and melk.
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One POV is that if quality nominates you, it's an advantageous occurrence, that is not guaranteed to happen all the time. So you shift the magnets and make a trade happen, even if you don't think it's a critical need. It's still an upgrade for locking down a fwd imo. Trade Frost if need be. HBF/Hunt provides dash, its not an important KPD assett, it's icing.
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You left out our acquisition of Andy Brayshaw with that pick 6* perhaps?
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Simpson and co backed gaff to develop that side of his game. Goodwin can do the same with one of our players or bring an outside elite runner in and condition them into becoming a high pressure tough nut that can get their own footy.
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He's a good looking fella isnt he? I hope he hasnt retained those boyish good looks by keeping his nose out of the incoming impact of a contest... like someone we know. Are there any draftees with squashed noses in the viney/selwood/wines mould?
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Does anyone have an approximation on how much of an offer we would have actually been able to put forward?
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Maybe we could squeeze out one of their players. Ben Jacobs is arguably the leagues best tagger and hasn't re-signed. He obviously has concussion issues right now, but we do have a good track record with Brayshaws recovery so far.
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Ideally Hogan plays an Adel-Tom Lynch type of roaming HF. He was doing it in the first half of the year, i'm confused as to why he hasn't been doing it in the second half? Foot injury would explain why it seems
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Interesting stat about 4 goals in 5 games against top 8 teams. Not averse to exploring the Dylan Shiel idea more. Absolute gun. But he seems like captain material though so I think he'll stay.
