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How's his training looking now?

Seems like Paul Roos is a fan of Ben Kennedy BEN KENNEDY – No.35 Date of birth: 3/3/1994 (21 years old) Height: 175cm, Weight: 76kg AFL debut: 2013, MFC debut: yet to debut AFL games: 25 (Collingwood 25, Melbourne 0), AFL goals: 15 (Collingwood 15, Melbourne 0) Position: Midfielder Recruited: Brighton District (SA)/Glenelg (SA)/Collingwood Drafted: 2012 NAB AFL Draft (No.19)/2015 NAB AFL Draft traded by Collingwood for Jeremy Howe and Jimmy Toumpas “Coming from another club, Ben knows what footy is all about. He knows what he has to do and he has an AFL body. He’s a really determined kid and he leaves no stone unturned. He’s exploring a lot of things and he’s embracing everything about the footy club and we just love having him around.” – Paul Roos

I'm sure we all do. But hes had 8 years to work on his decision making and disposal and we have not seen any improvement. He is not in our best 22 and will be lucky to play 10 games next year.

How do you know its not serious? The sam frost injury has proved regardless how small the injury is dont ever underestimate the serverity later down the track.

Reminds me of the stupid Sam Blease incident almost.

Everyone just needs to calm down.. at least its not long term hopefully.. FFS CHRISTIAN WTF WERE YOU THINKING!!!? FK!!

Yeah im sure Alistair Clarkson and Luke Hodge agree with this.. No one is saying to be robots. But when your paid big money in a professional environment to get fit over the break but coming back in poor condition then you are letting the team down and supporters. FFS is it seriously hard to take 2 hours of your day dedicating to getting fit and becoming in top condition? Because thats all it takes during their time off each day. Getting good pay for couple hours doing your own work. Sounds like a dream job for me personally. FMD

Yeah... You have got the wrong person mate. I was in the camp that we had to get Brayshaw in our round 1 side asap after he dominated those 3 Casey Games. While some wanted him to develop at Casey I have always said that If a player is ready and has AFL potential traits they'll develop quicker at AFL level than VFL level, bit like Wines, Selwood Martin etc. They adapt to the quicker game style and skill that that the VFL lack. I fact if you want to have a read yourself and even a bit of a laugh here it is. http://demonland.com/forums/topic/38117-does-brayshaw-play-round-1/?page=2 I also put Clayton Oliver in the same boat too.

Agree to disagree. Look put it this way if Petracca goes on and blows the competition away like Hogan did and even wins the RS award il bake a humble pie for myself with your name in it. In all seriousness though if Petracca does come and do what Hogan did then it will just clarify that our development is finally on the right path for once.

yeah nah

So that's your contribution? If you don't like what you read don't bother to comment if its such a sensitive issue for you. simple really.

Poor Sam... lol but no one better to learn then Jesse who is one of the best contested marks in the AFL.

Can you do a quick brief on how the other young recruits are going MD? Cheers

I noticed that too..

Considering his foot is still having problems I can see his point. While 'none' of us have any information or medical report on his foot it is a concern that's its been an on going problem for nearly 12 months now and with Frost having missed fair chunk of the pre season so far he will be a fair way behind the pack. I really do hope he comes good soon though I really rate his freak athletic ability and feel his best spot is down back taking on the big gorilla forwards like Cloke Kennedy and Franklin.

Good point. That's why I mentioned Petracca will be used in burst rotating from half forward to the bench. The interchange cap will have a big impact on young kids.

Good article by Watts here in regards to our culture. But words mean nothing to me now as I expect to see us back it up with winning results. http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/melbourne-players-no-longer-protecting-their-own-backyard-in-new-selfless-culture/story-e6frf3e3-1227696844398

My thought exactly. Its disappointing that these two who had great first years have come back underdone and had to play catch up. This is where our leadership will be really tested now.

Been reading the player by player updates by Paul Roos and two players that I thought was interesting. JAMES HARMES – No.43 Date of birth: 5/10/1995 (20 years old) Height: 185cm, Weight: 80kg AFL debut: 2015 AFL games: 8, AFL goals: 3 Position: Midfielder/forward Recruited: Devon Meadows (Vic)/Dandenong Stingrays (Vic) Drafted: 2013/14 Rookie Draft (No.2); 2015 NAB AFL Draft rookie elevation “Harmesy probably started a little bit slowly and a little bit behind where we hoped he’d be, which then puts pressure on every session, as you can’t afford to miss them. But pre-Christmas he really picked it up and his last two or three weeks before Christmas were really good. Hopefully, he’ll improve on last season, because he finished off the year really well.” – Paul Roos The message I got from that was maybe he came back not doing the work required set out for them in the off season? I know young players who have had a good debut year tend to get carried away and probably don't put in the hard work in the off season but as Roosy said they do pick it up straight away. JESSE HOGAN – No.1 Date of birth: 12/2/1995 (20 years old) Height: 195cm, Weight: 101kg AFL debut: 2015 AFL games: 20, AFL goals: 44 Position: Key forward Recruited: Claremont (WA) Drafted: 2012 GWS Giants Trade Incentive Rule Selection, 17-year-old access (No.2) Honours: NAB AFL Rising Star 2015 “Jesse came back and was a little underdone, but he doesn’t take long to get into shape. His is all about balance – getting the balance right between running, football and off-field. He’s had a bad back in the past, but he’s really working well and he’ll be in really good nick heading into our pre-season camp in mid-January.” – Paul Roos Thought this bit was interesting as well.. Maybe just got a little too comfortable with his first year? Actually I must admit I am looking forward to seeing if he can back it up again next season. LIAM HULETT – No.27 Date of birth: 17/3/1997 (18 years old) Height: 193cm, Weight: 94kg AFL debut: yet to debut AFL games: 0, AFL goals: 0 Position: Key defender/forward Recruited: Bonbeach (Vic)/Dandenong Stingrays (Vic) Drafted: 2015 NAB AFL Draft (No.46) “Liam is like the other first year players – it’s all about getting used to the schedule and getting up early and doing all the things you have to do to be an AFL footballer. He’s got an AFL body – he’s a big, strong lad. But he’s just been getting used to training since arriving at the club,” – Paul Roos My favourite part quote

Killing for a good training program! Btw seems so quick doesn't it. Feels like yesterday the boys finished up their last training run for the year!

Exactly. His impact will be like Brayshaw probably even better as he is a natural up forward then he is in the midfield. We wont see another debut like hogan for a very very long time.

People saying Petracca having a Hogan like season will be disappointed.. while he is a potentially player in the making, unlike Hogan CP has yet to play any form of senior footy in his life where is Hogan had the full VFL season against harden bodies and 4 NAB cup games in 2013.. He had already that 1 years experience against AFL bodies unlike Petracca has only played against kids. The step up and intensity will become a rude shock to him and will atleast take him a good month to get going. Hogan also had a very big engine base while this was a weakness Petracca had to work on so expect to start on a half forward and rotate through the bench a lot. The Hogan debut like was a freak once in a generation thing.. I can't see Petracca doing that especially coming a long further back then what Hogan did.

Then again maybe this bloke might surprise a few next year considering he is physically ready to go

I predict Oliver first out of the draftees. Started playing GV senior football at the age of 16 which is a very strong standard league with a lot of ex AFL players running around. Petracca is the obvious one too.