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Roos watched alot more of Brayshaw due to Tyler playing in the same team at TAC cup level. Roos did a lot of mentoring role with Gus when he was with Sandy.

This is from a saints supporter at Bigfooty. A very honest and reasonable response. Honest opinion from a Saints supporter. Selecting McCartin instead of Petracca is as baffling now as it was at the time. No hindsight required. Read any Saints threads pre draft that discuss us picking Petracca & the lead up to the leak we were leaning towards picking Paddy. Most Saints fans thought it was a troll the fact that we were even considering Paddy. The melt amongst fans ensued. After the draft fans obviously got behind Paddy & found positives.In my opinion the Saints recruiters outsmarted themselves. They tried to find flaws in Petracca not to pick him. He's lazy. He's arrogant. He's selfish. All because the recruiters shatthemselves when the Bulldogs shelled out big for Tom Boyd. The problem is the St Kildarecruiters failed to follow the fundamental rule of pick high end draft talent. They failed to pickbest available.Close to the draft all clubs recruiters were asked who they would pick at selection one. 16 clubspicked Petracca, one club Heeney & one club Paddy (obviously St Kilda). The scary thing iseven those fans with a lay opinion on the matter clearly had Petracca ahead of Paddy but theprofessionals running the St Kilda club failed in their duties.It's obviously too late now, the past is the past & I think Paddy becomes a pretty decent footballer when all is said & done. But Petracca becomes elite top five in the competition quality.Just quickly on Billings, as it's been raised. Billings was clearly a top three talent. The Saints recruiters shouldn't be blamed for picking him ahead of Bont. Pretty sure 16 clubs would've done the same. Apparently only Collingwood &the Bulldogs had Bont so high. We don't even know if the Dogs would've picked Bont ahead of Billings if they had the option. The concern with Billings is why has he failed to develop/why has the club failed to develop him. Fourth year in, he needs to show more.

Good post Palace. Said before that while Lever is a good young prospect his disposal by foot can actually be quite poor. Saw alot of adelaide games last year and some of his turnovers even without pressure were atrocious. Adelaide fans will say that while he is a decent prospect he needs to work on this area. I dont think Lever is what we need. We still need to continue to top up on midfield depth and a Ruckman/forward. I have enough confidence in Frost Smith Wagner Oscar and Hibberd to hold our backline together once they are all fit.

Andrew your overrating Levers skills here. While he is an outstanding talent the games i have watched he is prone to turn it over by foot. Crow fans will say that of its one thing he needs to work on its his disposal by foot. And i tend to disagree that midfielder arr easier to find then KPDs.. Both Mac brother pick 53 and are set for 10 year long careers. Mitch McGovern who is one of the best intercept defender in the comp was a rookie listed player. Top 10 draft pick midfielders are hard to find. Especially when your drafting guys like Toumpas Morton O' Rourke Aish. Brayshaw ceiling is much higher then Lever. You can have an average backline and still win a flag. Just ask the westerteen bulldogs. What won them the game was their superior and competitive midfield. They have about 8 quality players that run through the midfield. Brayshaw with 50 games next to his game will really start to impact games and show his true value. 188cm 87kg midfielders like Gus aren't easy to find.

Get out.

Wow.. Brayshaw for Lever!? April fools right???

Jake Leve comes out of contract at the end of this year and is yet to resign so far.

Darcy Moores development is going to take a halt in the same vein as Josh Fraser. Why? because he is being asked to be their number 1 forward coming up against the likes of Rance and Frawley who will monster him. His body is still growing and atm he should be playing 3rd tall foil like Weideman is currently. I feel for the kid because he is a super talent. Unfortunately letting go off Cloke might bite them back because he would always take the best defender and i thought that's where Moore played his best footy. Nakis while talented goes missing too often and very inconsistent. I'm very happy with Brayshaw and Tracca thanks.

Wrights biggest weakness was for such a big bloke he was quite soft. In saying that i think Wright will be a star and a much better player then McCartin.

At the time Bruce and Membrey were no names. Riewoldt was supposedly on his last legs and it was a no brainer that they needed a full forward. That came on the back of the Saints throwing huge dollars at Tom Boyd. Hindsight is wonderful but if the draft was on right now the saints would take Petracca in a heart beat knowing Bruce and Membrey are established key forwards. My big worry is McCartin. I thought in the JTL series he looked too overweight and im not surprised he is having hamstribg issues. Overlooking Petracca i think will eventually haunt them like it did with Wines for us. Alan Richardson is close family friends with the Petraccas and like Todd Viney decided against going down the safe option and took the risk. Who knows if it will pay off.

Just [censored] nuke the joint.

So would i mate.

Both Ablett and Judd were also very explosive on the outside. Cripps aint that at all. Thats why Judd and Ablett were just the complete package. Speed, explosiveness, ability to win inside and outside ball and kick goals when rested up forward. Cripps is just a pure inside midfielder who has cleans hands in tight. My personal opinion is Cripps is so far off the Judd Ablett category its laughable. Judd and Ablett in their top peak were two of the best midfielders i have ever seen in my time watching football.

I don't see a Judd or Ablett in him at all. Cripps kicking is at times poor and probably a weakness he needs to work on. Both those players had the ability to do the impossible out of nothing and could turn a game instant brilliance. Cripps to me is another Greg Williams all over again.

Interesting to hear this morning that Sam Mclure had mentioned Josh Kelly was being sounded out by every single Victorian club but Melbourne was on top of that list. He then did say that Kelly was set to turn down offers and remain at GWS for 2 more years.

If i remember Wiz was pretty bitter with the dockers in his final year due to his treatment after finishing up.

notice the hashtag #deesupayingattention.. Hopefully they are!

Haha that never gets old! ?

I thought i read somewhere that we are going offer next years 2nd round draft in an attempt to keep this years pick and use it in the draft.

I wonder if the Dees will bite the bullet and pick him in the National draft knowing that he might be gone before the rookie draft.

They are drug cheats in my eyes. [censored] Essendon..

Lol he was ordinary wasn't he.. Came in as a bargain recruit after a impressive career at Essendon only to spud it up with us.

They are all rookie elevation picks mate.

To prove how poor his Jayden Hunt call was these were the players selected after Hunt at pick 57.. James Sicily was taken at pick 56 which was out of our control. Besides the rookie upgrades there is not one player there i would rather have then Hunt. Incredibly poor post by WTM. ROUND FOUR 57. Melbourne: Jayden Hunt 58. Fremantle: Brady Grey 59. Hawthorn: Jonathan Cegler 60. Western Bulldogs: Mitch Honeychurch 61. West Coast: Jamie Bennell 62. Brisbane Lions: Jonathan Freeman 63. Geelong: George Burbury 64. Essendon: Lauchlan Dalgleish 65. Collingwood: Tom Langdon 66. Richmond: Sam Lloyd 67. Carlton: PASSED 68. Port Adelaide: Karl Amon 69. Sydney: PASSED 70. Fremantle: Matthew Taberner 71. Hawthorn: Will Langford ROUND FIVE 72. GWS: PASSED 73. GWS: PASSED 74. West Coast: Jeremy McGovern 75. Brisbane: Justin Clarke 76. Adelaide: Kyle Hartigan 77. Collingwood: Jonathan Marsh 78. Richmond: PASSED 79. Carlton: PASSED 80. Sydney: Braydon Jack ROUND SIX 81. GWS: PASSED 82. Melbourne: Mitchell Clisby 83. St Kilda: Tom Curren 84. Western Bulldogs: Brett Goodes 85. West Coast: Simon Tunbridge 86. Adelaide: Rory Laird 87. Collingwood: Sam Dwyer 88. Richmond: PASSED 89. Carlton: Ed Curnow 90. Sydney: Dane Rampe ROUND SEVEN 91. GWS: PASSED 92. Collingwood: Adam Oxley 93. Richmond: Ricky Petterd 94. Carlton: Tom Bell ROUND EIGHT 95. GWS: Zachary Williams 96. Collingwood: PASSED ROUND NINE 97. GWS: Jake Barrett

Is it me or does anyone else get quite shitty when we are never mentioned as a club interested when it comes to big name players. Even with Hurley we hear bits here and there but nothing else. I understand club maybe wants to keep a low profile but most of the time it ends up that we are never in the hunt with most of the big name players that get mentioned. You'll always hear us chasing the Melkshams and the Hibberds but personally they dont excite me at all.