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I think he can learn from and replace Viney. Similiar left foot kick and he's as hard as anyone. Just needs the body to match, but this can come with Viney showing him how to lift.

We'll go after Flynn I think. As I recall we were keen on him in his draft year.

Agreed. The Maynard outrage will go on until at least Thursday via appeal (unless he gets off tomorrow), so the coaches have a real task on their hands to get the team focused on the right things. Carlton will be licking their lips at all of this you'd think. Injured, distracted, hurting, deflated. Terrible preparation to face a team that's lost 1 game in 3 months, just coming off their biggest win in 10 years.

Thanks for the fix! Recommend all listen

Would recommend those struggling with this all to listen to this by the boys at the Dee Brief. Think they did a terrific job on behalf of all dees fans - I certainly found it cathartic. https://twitter.com/The_DeeBrief/status/1701055886683423095?t=ocpknwzeFrSM7FBSkbSS8g&s=19

Those getting Ps and Ns - what are you selecting? Can only seem to get m50 again

? He'd be under no illusions of his place at the club. He has been insurance for the last two of his clubs and it's doubtful he's ever going to be more than that. He'll take his 300k p.a. until someone stops giving it to him ...

Just realised with the Hibberd news that I didn't see him at training. Potentially didn't pull up well, or is the retirement immediate?

As much as the unknown possibility of Turner excited me, I think the right changes would be Grundy and Jordon for JVR and Gus. I'd put Turner as the sub, a little in the Smith mould that he could play back, forward or even as a taller intercepting half back. Could bring him on various game states or for a tiring Hibberd if their small-mid forwards aren't doing much.

It's how I feel about it too. People saying it's a "freak accident" - no, it's not. It's not like a 10 sided marking contest where a stray elbow struck the temple, or even a ground ball where a freak bounce left a player prone, or one of a million other unlucky situations. Let's be real here - players run at the ball carrier in an attempt to smother 100s of times a year. Often from directly front on. Despite this, never before in the history of the game has someone come down from a smother attempt like that. There was nothing unique about this situation at all. The Mitch Duncan comparison in my mind actually helps. Do you know why Duncan was spinning? It's because he watched the ball sail over his head, turning mid air to see it. As you would if you had genuine intent to smother. Maynard didn't even notice the ball flying over his head. Was already pointing everything he had at the head of no.10.

Yes, trained well, good energy stayed out longer signing autographs

Actually forgot one more - Woewodin is a player we should be getting games into asap in my opinion. Not saying he is SF, PF, GF ready (though he won't do any worse than Laurie), but he has a very good in-out skillset and has a lot of upside I think as either a wing or midfielder. Has talents many of our mids don't have. Very smooth mover, hit all of his set shots just about and just has a bit of spunk I reckon

Me too. Let's hope the sports scientists told them not to exert themselves. Smiling and being positive really takes it out of you

Tbh, I found the energy from the players quite lacking. The energy from the crowd and kids was terrific but almost deflated when the players came past. I think they're hurting & their confidence has taken a bit. It was a low energy session overall so perhaps a harsh judgement but it didn't fill me with confidence at all meeting a Carlton team on cloud 9 in full hunter mode. I think they're tired after 3 top 4s in 3 years getting bashed from pillar to post for lately, little reward. The injuries might have killed us I think. The remaining teams seem to have an energy and hunger about them that I don't sense from our group. Of course I hold hope and it was still a fun time, kids loved it and the DJ helped ,but feels a little inevitable to me right now. Like a looming exam you just know you're not prepared for. On the footy itself, a few observations: -I have some faith Turner would do ok up forward even though that's probably illogical. He's a neat set shot, holds the ball all the way down to his foot. It may be an interesting move to tell him to play 'defence' on Weitering. He'd make an OK fist of it I reckon if he played from behind. -Clarry absence very mysterious. Let's hope nothing to see there. -Trac looked a little....green? When he ran out but trained fine. Such a loose set shot, either middles them or sprays them. -AMW struggled with the short hit up kicks in the forward drill. -Ben Brown moved surprisingly well, looked no worse than Tom Mac tbh. -Energy in the midfield group far higher than in the fwd/backs group. Led by Viney. We are lucky to have him. -Fritsch and ANB in good spirits, more interactive with fans than most. -love the way Verrall moves and have a lot of hope for what he could become. -Spargo is a little too negatively demonstrative imo. Does it in games too. Touch of the Hogan's. Probably frustrated with his year I'd imagine. Can't think of much else, any questions shout out will do my best

Asked 4 different players. All ignored the question. Asked BG if he was playing, said " I hope so" Lady next to me mentioned George on the Outers wonderful analysis, so there were at least 2 demonlanders in attendance!

No Clarry. Daniel turner with the forwards.

? We lost most key stats to the blues when we lost to them. They play a similiar profile to us. Kicking straight is a start but won't be enough. Kick straight, stop Curnow, win clearance, and negate Weitering. That would do the job.

This kozzie vision is not helpful and you should stop sharing it. He's running at a 45 degree angle towards WHE and so of course misses him on the way down...it's entirely different to the angle Maynard was approaching from

Agree. Spargo can actually draw a [censored] in the fwd 50 too, which we couldn't buy last night.

Spargo to FF it is

There is plenty of MFC 2018 vibes about Carlton. Every chance to roll us and then fall in an utter heap in a prelim in Brisbane.

Two things make this very clear to me. 1. Players attempt to smother, whilst running towards a player, 100 times a game. In all my years watching footy and attempted smothers, I've never seen anyone change mid air and land the way he did to strike a player. 2. His eyes. He doesnt turn to watch the ball sail over his head. Doesnt even start to. His eyes were trained on our no.10 the entire time. This is what makes it different to the Mitch Duncan case that Jon Ralph is tweeting about - Mitch followed the ball with his eyes and so it was his back that landed on the player, not his shoulder/hip.

Same boat here mate. I want to stop but can't look away as the outrage is still simmering. That fans let their club allegiances undermine human decency is the worst part of sport. Line up any of these 'fans', or their family members in the way that Maynard did Brayshaw and they'll take you to court (if they could afford it). As for the Goodwin presser, what did he say that's so offensive? The facts literally were that he left the ground and knocked a guy out? It's hard to believe that people's brains have the capacity to misconstrue such a simple sentence I just can't

Real vibe of 'why did we bother going through the season' at the moment isnt there What's the point of it all! The week to week ups and downs, when this is where it ends!

I'm seething at Maynard but I don't think you've interpreted what happened correctly. In my view he made a genuine attempt to smother, but with the ball gone, also made a split second, barely conscious decision to turn and lead with the hip and shoulder while Gus was vulnerable, if nothing else, then to make him 'earn it'. The 'barely conscious' aspect of it would make sense to me, as its in instinct that character emerges. He's known to have white line fever - I think his instinct was to take a free hit and inflict pain. Over my sporting days I had/have white line fever, and hand on heart, I have to admit I have at times intended to inflict pain in the heat of the moment. I don't expect everyone to understand this but I feel uniquely placed in this scenario to comment. How such a situation is adjudicated, I don't know. General consensus around the footy public seems to be he will walk free.