Garbo

Don’t agree with moving Goodwin on but he needs to come clean on where the list is at, the longer we are in denial the longer the fall will be. And that wc team did massively under achieve and I think when we look back we will say the same about this team to.

I don’t think it’s intentional, he’s just not fit enough atm to get in the right position for the zone

I don’t think even he can manage to find a positive, as to a question for the pod is the red and blue print 2024 a failure and do we need to go back to the dees plan of 2021-23 or do we need to persist and see this through

Should just post up the post match from the wc game it would read basically the same

I guess the question is do we have any other options, from what I’ve seen there is no one putting any pressure on his position. Would you throw Salem or Rivers in there for the next 10 weeks and see how that goes? I think that would effectively be waving the white flag on this season but then again is limping into finals by doing nothing helpful either.

3 of our worst games since Goodwin started have been this season, today, lions and wc, mix in a number of slow starts that point to issues. I’ve said all year we aren’t a contender we need to at least make something of the remaining season and learn who on the list will take us fwd, no point putting more games into petty, mcadam billings, hunter. Oliver also needs to be spelled and get his body right and if not traded out for what we can get

It’s the new dees red and blue print didnt you get the memo, we are saving ourself for September

Can freo win by 100 so it might force someone’s hand

If every week isn’t an audit do we need to wait till another season is wasted before the club makes some hard choices

Don’t worry we will even it up in junk time to look good for all the stats nerds

Goodwin the tactical genius would rather loose the game than make adjustments on the fly

On a side not when does this deal selling games to nt end surely it’s not worth it

Never has for us, we need to keep the ball in hand as long as possible

We are such a slow team and every other side knows it, if they just come out hard we can’t keep up. We are betting everything on been close enough in the 2nd half to make it a game

This game is way to fast for us, if we can’t slow it down we will get smashed

This is embarrassing how many goals we want to gift them

Same was said about brown, I think he’s probably in better condition than he was. Who is a younger prospect that is gettable this off season and would come to dees, I don’t see any that would be notable. I don’t think the king bros are gettable nor is Larkey or McDonald not sure who else you have in mind

Tom lynch would surely be available, he would be a nice upgrade to Ben Brown / Petty he would give us a few years while we are still in the frame

McAdam and Petty need to go back to the 2nds, time we bring in Jefferson and see what he is about no point waiting till it’s forced on us late in the year and then one of Sestan, Brown or Tholstrup as a fwd / mid

Difference with pies is they had a 2 game gap between them and 2nd and 3 between them and 3rd with 5 rounds remaining and with that the luxury of preparing for finals. At the present time dees are in a fight to hold a sport inside the 8. By no means is the season over but don’t I don’t think the example is comparable. I could be proven wrong but dees this year unlike the last 3 seem clearly to have fallen back to the pack but some what lucky for us outside swans everyone else has had more than a few stumbles

So now good is 2025 looking only 42 weeks to round 1

The problem is if our main liners don’t have a good game it rare to see the next players down step up, although I don’t know that is unique to us. But when’s the last time Sparrow ANB, rivers, Salem and the like stepped up when players like Trac and Oliver or May are Struggling. They play there role and might have a good game when when everyone else is but I dont recall when they have had a statement game when the chips were down

Could bring in any fwds you like and it wouldn’t help with only 36 inside 50s for the game, we simply couldn’t move the ball from defensive 50 to attacking 50 and when we did it didn’t stay long

Feels like maybe they have just hit a wall after 3 years at the very top, Oliver clearly down for obvious reasons, trac looks like he has got to big and lost some agility, viney just getting older and has begun the slow decline. Sparrow hasn’t really taken the next step and I don’t think anb is really a legitimate answer but tries his best and is fine to fill rotations on occasion

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic because we lost tonight but do you think the window might be closed or quickly closing on this specific iteration of our team. It feels like our current ladder position 7th is probably a accurate reflection of where we sit and I can’t see that significantly changing this season. Do dees need to go hard at the trade table end of season and move on some premiership players in order to get capital to go bring in some new high end talent. Similar to what we did with Hogan leaving and May coming in at the end of 2018.