Watts the matter

I don't know about him being an excellent kick for goal. I think what he produced reflected his skill set. 3.3 and an out on the full.

Free kick against Jones for knocking over a flopper, why was there a 50 meter pentalty?

He didnt, he bumped him and Walters [censored] into it. Freo players bumped Jones right after it but he didn't fall over like a little [censored]. Walters is a blight on the game, constantly playing for free kicks.

Pick 23, our 2nd rounder would be adequate.

I don't know about the outside run people are mentioning. He does his best work on the inside, while his outside game is okay, he isn't going to break any lines with the ball in hand and disposal can be sloppy.

The coaches need to take responsibility for the lack of development with Clayton Oliver. How can he still continue with these instant handballs, if he holds it for a bit longer and draws a tackler it would open up the whole field but instead he insists on flicking it instantly to a player under pressure. Unfair on him as most of them do it, but he is capable of so much more. Our centre clearances are embarrassing, Harmes in the first quarter typified why we are rubbish, gets the clearance with all the Collingwood mids behind him and elects to bomb the ball in when he easily could have ran and carried the ball and guaranteed a score.

Is it? I've liked his movement but I am yet to see anything that tells me he is a good kick. Is this based on his AFL performances or things you have seen at other times?

Lol, the same Roos that recruited Harry O?

I heard this but I don't think it's right.Brayshaw was one of the main reasons behind our terrible start to the season. His disposal was horrific and he pays little respect to his opponents and does not run hard defensively. For someone who came in to the AFL and was an elite tackler, he is now a poor tackler. When they switched him into the midfield today, you could see why he should be. The goal Josh Kelly kicked from the centre clearance which was highlighted in the telecast showed how poor he is defensively. He is devoid of confidence now, it appears they wanted him to work on some areas of the game and it has backfired.

I admire your commitment but I can see this is wrong instantly. There was a throw against Oliver. The problem with analysing umpiring as you have is that it does not take into account all the non decisions which are just as important. It's fine to say they are all there, but why weren't they when it was our turn. Kennedy's free kick in first quarter happened about 20 more times throughout the game with no decisions.

Did you read his post?

In the last quarter a bunch but we played McGovern beautifully until then and not many of them that a player like Preuss would have impacted. Our game plan and selecion was fine, we just missed simple goals, nothing to do with selection.

Why is everyone going on about Preuss. How would have he helped on a big ground. McGovern would have had a day out against him.

Even when he doesn't directly he just kills the ball movement, takes so long to get back off a mark and move it on.

Of course not, but 100% yes.

Nah mate, Oscar Allen beat him in several 1 on 1s that quarter.

I think the issue is the mixed messages coming from people within the club. Mahoney either doesn't know the team rules or is not being honest. Players have made these statements both prior to and post Mahoney's press conference. It is a stupid rule when you have Jordan Lewis coming on TV and admitting he has and most players do drink during rehab, they just don't get caught doing it.

Disagree with you here. Harmes, Viney, Lewis, Gawn and possibly Lever have talked to the media about the issue from my recollection. Multiple players have said we have a team rule that you can't drink while in rehab.

It's worse than that. We were allowed 24 or 26 players on the day and chose to go in with 22. They could have easily had one of the extras on standby or even warm up and come on once the injuries started mounting. Pathetic managment.

No he didn't. That was Tom Browne.

He did another interview after the Melbourne game and was a lot more composed. As far as I'm concerned both parties are in the wrong here. You should never be knocking a beer out of someone's hand.

I hope all those posters who try and defend Weideman with the 'he is a young KPP' watched Naughton tonight. That's a pick 9, second year key position player.

Very true. We were bad today, they were just as bad. Game could have gone either way. The first half was close to the worst half of footy I can remember watching. I wasn't a big fan of Goodwin carrying on like that after the game either. I could understand it after our first win but seemed right over the top for the way we played and the quality (or lack of) of opposition that we played. Despite winning, I'm finding it very hard to get excited about our season. Even when we were on top in the game there was no system, it was just repeat inside 50s.

Had to be a score or to the boundary line. No idea what was going through his head.

Melkshams decision to kick it in the corridor was so stupid. Luckily a game full of errors and they drop a mark after that so he won't cop it on here.