Watts the matter

I hope not, if he is a regular without a drastic improvement we will be struggling. He also doesn't fit into our backline with our regular team available. If we have Lever, May, Jetta and Frost all in the team we need some running half backs playing, not another slowish tall player who can't break the game open with his kicking.

It was Lachine Weller and he is a good player, while you wouldn't think he would be worth pick 2 when you look at the players picked that year, I would take him ahead of every other player from pick 2 onwards in the top 10 bar Jaydn Stephenson. GWS got 4 mini draft picks, which they traded for essentially 4 top 3 picks. This is a substantial advantage. GWS also got lucky with a better group of pre-draft players (Treloar, Shiel, Camereon amongst others). By doing this the draft lost elite talent the years while the Gold Coast was at the bottom.

Very, Lynch has kicked 23 more goals and played just 4 more games.

I think it comes down to if you think he has the tools to make it. I can seem him playing good games here and there but can't see him doing it consistently with his attributes. As I've said in previous posts, if you compare him to his draft class of talls he is struggling. Yes it can take some key position players longer to develop, that's why you look at traits such as Moore's athleticism. I just don't see the tools with Weideman, he lumbers like a 203cm ruckman when the ball is 5 meters away. I'm happy that he will get the rest of the season to show what he has got and show some improvement and will avoid commenting on him until the season ends, as I do post about him too often.

Where have I disputed that? You said he often played VFL not that he was an ordinary forward. Moore has elite speed for a tall. Weideman is slow. If you can't see that and are just focusing on stats then that says it all. Moore was always an inconsistent forward and would go missing for large parts of games, however, he always had outstanding athletic traits that suit the modern game.

Moore mostly in the vfl? How do you come to that conclusion? he hardly played a vfl game once he debuted. Daniher kicked bags of 6 and 5 in his 3rd season. Perspective is fine but take off the red and blue glasses.

I agree with your sentiment regarding the personal nature but there has to be an element of analysing a players ability to play football and the attributes they show. One of the issues I have with posts such as yours is that you use a good forward like Tom Hawkins to compare him to. You may be able to mount a case that they have had a comparable first 4 seasons in AFL, but you could easily choose another 10 players with this output that didn't make it. Daniher kicked 43 goals in his 4th season and Darcy Moore always showed elite athleticism which is a weakness of Weideman, so not really the right comparasions. Because of comparasions that are over the top and out of context like this I feel the need to reply with relevant information. It is a forum after all.

The issue is his lack of mobility and he is so one dimensional. Nothing's changed, he has always been this way. If he is not marking it within range he offers little. My concerns have not changed and his season has gone as I expected (I did hope for a lot better after his finals, but this is about right). If we are pinning our hopes on him we are in trouble. If he becomes an AFL standard player it will be a huge bonus as far as I'm concerned.

If he was actually a good kick (as was advertised pre-draft), he might have made it despite his flaws.

May also does this and spoils teammates, he still hacks the ball at times and some of his disposals in the 3rd quarter were shocking. He also double fisted on a couple of occasions when he easily could have marked. None of us know what was said, but May had plenty of areas for improvement on todays game.

I didn't like the way he got right in his face, like they were about to come to blows. Has history of these kinds of things, I remember him and Tom Lynch with a similar incident. There are better ways to get your point across.

Paywall, what's it say?

I'll take the journalist over Goodwin any day of the week in this situation. If you can't play again for 6 weeks because of an injury which isn't going to require surgery and you are just going to let rest and then re-load, why would you put him back on. Smith, meanwhile, could be sidelined for up to six weeks after a groin injury, which he played through in the club's final JLT Community Series against Brisbane to assist with rotations, worsened. The clubs decision was for him to rest and let the groin heal, I fail to see how playing more football assists with this. When you add in that this was a meaningless JLT game and we elected not to play extra players which we were entitled to, it is amateur.

So you are saying Smith did no further damage by coming back on? Maybe this will refresh your memory. https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-20/ankle-problem-forces-tough-demons-mid-out-of-port-clash

Do you want me to find my post questioning it at the time?

The Smith decision is undeniable. It was pathetic management by everyone involved in selecting the team. We easily could have had players geared up ready to go but we elected to go with a smaller team than we were allowed on the day. To manage every other players loads they needed Smith to be on for rotations. It was amateur.

That's good enough for you? We would be over the moon if he became a Josh Kennedy. Unfortunately for every Josk Kennedy there is a Tom Boyd, Josh Schache and Tim O'Brien. I still hold hope that he makes it, but you need to move past just jumping at the ball and contesting at some stage and that's currently all the coaching staff appear to be asking for. With our 'elite' crumbing forwards it's not what we need.

He already extended.

So then compare him to his draft class of talls then. Curnow, McKay, Hipwood and Himmelberg were all taken after him and all have shown much better development in their 4th season of AFL. Schache was taken earlier and was traded as quickly as a pick 2 has ever been for very little.

Lol, the same Paul Roos that was banging on about Jeremy Howe having the best 4 possession game or something along those lines? Weideman, continues to frustrate me with his inability to be any more than a one-trick pony. He had so many decent deliveries come his way, but he refused to make body contact prior to launching at the ball and is not quick enough to get separation, so it is so easy for a defender with a leap to defend him. There was no forward craft in his launch for the ball. Nearly all his marks at AFL seem to come when he is given a free run and jump at the ball, when he has someone on him he rarely marks the ball. Griffen Logue who was his opponent for a lot of the game, seemed to always read the ball better and showed significantly more agility.

Hayden Young? I've only seen him play one quarter but had a laser left foot.

Had a mixed game for mine. At stages looked great, loved the way he took a few bodies and that double handed spike to a teammate, but also thought he was dump kicking to often for a skilful player and spoiling his teammates, dropping easy marks to often in marking contests.

As mentioned it wasn't Taylor at all but don't let the facts get in the way. People have questioned Taylor which is more than fair based on what he has done. Haven't seen many if any people call him a dud.

As silly as it was, it was just as bad by the umpire and then our defenders who had an easy ball coming in and completely missed it.

To be honest it probably should have been a 50 against Hunt for locking the legs prior to the knee drop, so it was poor umpiring all round. It was strange that they decided to pluck one blocking in the marking contest against us when they let every other time it happen slide.