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Oliver will be the best of them I think. The numbers he's getting with 60% game time in his first year have been crazy at times, and then you add in his height, excellent decision making, calmness, skill (hand and foot) and aggression and you get the complete package for a modern midfielder. I'm surprised he doesn't get any love in the media, he will soon.

Just had a flashback to Hunt's tackle on Robert Gray in the last quarter. Absolutely pummelled him! I bet Gray wasn't expecting that.

I reckon our easy leaking of goals 'out the back' seemed to stop the moment Frost started playing back for us (against Hawthorn in the wet). I'm not saying he deserves all the credit, but his form back there has made a huge difference.

I feel like making a gif of every Oliver possession, he's a magician. When will Neville Jetta get his due recognition? He's pretty much a mini-Rance for us, with better disposal. Max brilliant again. Not his best game but how many players can kick goals from that pocket? Watts made it look easy. Hogan has probably shot himself in the foot with the stalled contract negotiations. His value was higher last year. Bad luck buddy.

Hunt could seriously become one of the premier half backs in the competition in a couple of years. So, so good.

Good article on Viney on the ESPN website, http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17269727/melbourne-football-club-jack-viney-ultimate-afl-athlete I remember just before we drafted him (in the bruise-free era), he was referred to as a 'culture changer'. He is certainly living up to that reputation.

He extended his rookie contract last year, something Scully never did. About as much chance of Weideman being another Lucas Cook.

Anyone see vandenBerg push Hodge out of the way with contempt and win a crucial footy early in the last quarter? He doesn't get the footy enough most weeks but what he does do is often impressive.

"One of the best second halves I've seen by a ruckman for a long, long time." Clarkson on Gawn.

Surely Oliver never plays VFL again.

Will be proud either way from here but Hawthorn will find a way like they always [censored] do. Harmes' disposal is diabolical.

Hunt got him over the shoulder. Paul Roos absolutely lost his [censored] at the one after that though - the one where he blatantly ducked into Jones' tackle and got rewarded.

12 touches and [censored] knows how many clearances for Oliver in that quarter.

'The next Lucas Cook' looks an absolute star already.

He called Josh Wagner 30 minutes before the draft and Weideman to debut on a Monday! He must be Paul Roos.

I'm worried for him. He only signed a one-year extension last year, and spots on the senior list in 2017 will be tight. The coaches obviously don't see him as best 22. Personally, I thought he was serviceable against the Hawks, important against Collingwood and the Sydney game? Unfair to judge him on that, you see games played in those conditions once every couple of years at best. I hope he gets another year.

He said he had received a lot of complimentary texts from Dees fans after yesterday's games and that he thought Melbourne fans would be rapt about the win. Somebody needs to text him the link to Demonland. He also said Goodwin noted the players looked a bit flat at training during the week and thus the subpar performance wasn't totally unexpected. I found that interesting.

Paul Roos (twice), Rodney Eade and Adam Simpson have all given Tyson votes in the past two games. He had the most of any player vs West Coast and equal most again against the Suns. That means all of them agreed he was in the best 3 players on the ground, both weeks. You know you're spinning in the mud when multiple, experienced coaches disagree with you. I'm sure they've all played at a higher level than you, making their opinion 'more valid', as you put it, than yours.

Bontempelli was considered a reach at pick 4 and was never going at pick 2. It's very possible we wouldn't have taken Kelly either, with names like Aish, Scharenberg and Billings being in the mix. Heaven forbid if we had held onto the pick and taken one of those battlers. The same people complaining now would be having a hissy fit. Tyson is a steady midfielder good for 25ppg and Salem is all class when fit (which to be fair isn't often enough).

I've been impressed with OMac's kicking, rarely misses a target. I wish he'd taught Tom when they were younger.

I watched the game and I disagree with you. I expect him to feature in the coaches' votes, again.

Last year he didn't win much of the footy but was damaging when he did get it. This year, it's the other way round. Expect it to click in 2017!

Yes but my point is that people get too caught up with one game and its relevance. It was absolutely horrendous yes but what of the previous 18 games? Do they get forgotten instantly or something?

Predictably melodramatic responses on here. Firstly, we got the 4 points. Secondly, our improvement is not measured on two hours of footy (which was good enough to win), it's based on 22 weeks. Given that's now our 8th win and our percentage is STILL over 100, I'd say the improvement is obvious. It was probably the worst two hours of footy of the year though. Positives apart from Juggernaut Watts were Hunt, Frost doing a good impression of Hunt and OMac standing up. I honestly don't care if Tom McDonald goes. We'll miss him as much as Howe and be laughing at his turnovers in red and white if he does.