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And the Brits, the Belgians, the Dutch, the Spanish, the Portuguese, why, they gave the world infrastructure, didn't they. Mistreated no-one. The signs in British controlled China, 'No dogs, no Chinamen' outside parks. But, oh dear, the Ottomans had female slaves. can't have that.

Correct about the Sumerian and Greek origins of Astronomy, Physics and Mathematics. It's just that during the European Dark Ages, when libraries were either closed or burned, the Moors of Spain became the guardians of that Tradition, a tradition which would have disappeared from the very dark days of Europe. And now, Mr Biff, as though Ottoman conquest, slavery and destruction ever reached anywhere near the scale of, well, even if we just mentioned the British Empire. But we won't stop there, let's get the Dutch, the Portugese, the Spanish, the Belgians and last but not least because they were the last at spinning the Empire net, the Germans. Give me a break, man.

WEll said, Bro.

Also, Mr Biff, that's factually very incorrect. The Ottomans were the ONLY colonial power who allowed you to speak your own language, observe your own religion, as long as you paid your taxes. Christians and Jews were fine under the Ottomans.

Very well said.

So Christianity isn't an ancient religion? Just remember both world wars, Hiroshima, the persecution of Jews etc, Iraq, Vietnam were all wars foisted on the world by another ancient religion, probably the most oppressive of the lot, christianity. I thought you had more brains, Biffo.

Hassa Mann before Brain Wilson, any day. Wilson is an emergency. Very selfish player, Wilson. Tassie Johnson instead of Massey. My half backline would be Leahy, Roet, Anderson. And Max Gawn and Gary Baker are/were much greater players than Peter Moore. Brett Lovett would be on my bench, Don Williams in the centre, Greg Wells to the bench along with Hardeman. Jackovich was not as good as Neitz. Jackovich is another emergency. That leaves room for Frank Adams. My side then would be: Fowler Tas Johnson Brett Lovett Leahy, Roet, Anderson Alved, Williams, Flower Mann, Schwartz, Lyon Townsend Neitz Farmer Stynes, Barassi, N. Jones Int: Adams, Dixon, Wells, Hardeman.

I've done this team in my head often. I have Steve Smith at full back, Wight in the back pocket, Febey instead of Grinter, Tingay instead of Johnstone and Davey instead of Yze.

I'm sure that'd sort him out no doubt. Maybe a couple of years at Melbourne Grammar.

Do you like Anton Bruckner as well? he was Austrian.

By the way, steel for our warships is a nineteenth century anachronism. Warships can never defend a country as large as Australia. They only become useful in stopping refugees, most of whom our acquiescence to USA Colonial policies have created.

Good talking to you Bro. When did you start following the dees? My catastrophe started at my grandmother's house in North Sunshine in September 1958. I turned on her television and watched this team getting beaten. I barracked for the loser. My daughter says that inclination has blighted my whole life.

So you're not only a Queenslander, you're a Coal Miner as well. My my Faultydet, how do you sleep at night? What, with all that heat and all that guilt floating in the beers.... I'm hoping to move up north one day myself. For a holiday maybe. Trouble is, it's full of Queenslanders. I do really believe that they actually DO put something into Queensland beer to make people vote for the likes of Joh and Pauline. What's your opinion about that?

Ah, it makes sense: I've just read you're a Queenslander.

Mate, I envy you for your closed mind, for your collaborationist acquiescence to everything our Anglo wise men have thrust on this nation. Where do you want to start: the Boer War, W/W 1, W/W 2. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Syria??? Just keep reading the herald Sun, just go keep believing the fascist propaganda that has brought the whole world literally to its barren knees.

Well said.

Sorry, Bro, thought it was a game against us.

1994, Schwarta and Charles and Pike...fer Crissake, why did we ever let him go????

Jeffrey is. That's why he's such a Blowhard out there Mr insecurity. Though to be fair, wouldn't you feel insecure if you were dealt the "Thou art Jeffrey Kennett card?"

have you tried the Lost and Found pages of The Age?

What flank? It's 4 yards wide, both sides put together.

Agree entirely: since when does a B. Bless own his ex wife?????

Ah, at last a cultured chap on Demonland. Great Polish writer Mr Conrad.

Good point. My grandmother from Prussia was a certifiable lunatic...

And in my wild erotic fancy vision came to me of Clancy... That one?