Demonsone

Reality is look at Tigers key players all in their mid to late 20s,,, Our list is still very young...

Lesson here is...Stick to the plan, improve the list & ignore the noise! Only 12mths ago they wanted to change the board & sack Hardwick!

I think Goody started this week with Watts!

Everyone is having a crack at Goody etc Roos said based on talent & not knowing what's happening with Watts behind the scenes etc he wouldn't trade him.. I guess if we got Lever from this trade are we complaining? Plenty of examples of clubs trading early picks to improve their lists!

Were not the only club to trade a high draft pick player... Croad was traded from Hawthorn to the Fremantle Dockers at the end of 2001. The picks given up by Fremantle were used by Hawthorn to select Hawthorn stars Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell

What about the 2yrs as assistant, thats 3 years that his looked at all the players inc Watts. Love to keep Watts the question is if its a deal breaker to get Lever do you roll the dice with Watts vs the upside of Lever @ 22yo?

https://www.sen.com.au/.../roos-and-schwarz-urge-dees-to.../ Very interesting by Roos, Im sure Goody will still be talking to Roos & bouncing ideas of him etc.

One of the darkest periods of the MFC resulted in burning a bucket load of early picks, either through picking he wrong players & definitely poor development/culture, but thats the past! Current regime need to make tough decisions to improve the list & bring in players who can play the intensity required to not only play but win finals inc a flag. On current form since 2014 they have continued to increase wins & improve our list. If it means Watts going to get Lever its worth it as you need to give something up to get something. Question is can Watts improve anymore vs what improvement Lever can.

Overall we finished 9th on the brownlow team ladder much like the season ladder! Positive is we had the most amount of players poll votes which means an even contribution! Reality we don't yet have an outright star/s who can poll high votes.

Matin polled 36 of the 80 tigers got... Dees got 68 votes id say in the top 8 of clubs

Yeah thr at Gws Kelly & Wines Port

Bottom line is we only 1 player to get double digits .. Oliver a second year player.. there were clubs who finished below us who polled more.. understand it's about team etc but we lack genuin guns! Our drafting continues to hurt us Kelly 21pts, Wines 19 ...

People have short memories, only 12mths ago the footy world were asking for the coaches head & their captains leadership was questioned. Time will tell but can't question the leadership shown by Viney & Jones has done well

How good would this be to hear when the Dees win!

I'm a port boy plus same theme song . Hard not like them?

Finally listened to ...It's a grand old flag ..... Great win from almost folding to winning the Flag...

Want be the 1st or last high draft pick player if he's traded... Its all about improving the list & you have to give something up to get something... Crows have lost Boak,Gunston,Tippett,Dangerfield & possibly Lever Tigers, Deledio

Stuck with their coach & their plan....

The talk on a trade Petracca or Oliver for Lever is ridiculous & dumb! These young guns are part of our future & would be pointless after securing them from early picks.

Its absolute disgraceful & sad that such a strong club which won so many flags in that era is enduring a 53yr premiership drought which is now the longest in AFL history.... Cant blame current players,coaches etc but until its broken the record will continue to grow!

Goodwin kept on saying & reference to the correct behaviours & haven't achieved anything until round 23..... If thats not saying to his players don't get ahead of yourselves, i don't know what is... Im sure he will talk about it again at the B&F....

Pj comments around respect club is based around a number of factors .. in terms of both on & off the field & were the club has come from since 2013 .. to suggest he was getting ahead of himself is ridiculous.. Surely you can praise the progress of the club ..

Perhaps....the concern is then what mindset did the MFC players have that finals were in the bag?

This is has prob already been posted...... If true sums up our result! Leadership,leadership,leadership

oh well still hurting/angry...thought i would be used to it the last 50yrs!