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This is a better comparison, at the same age, Oliver's current age. - Footywire table Player Statistics Comparison Clayton Oliver Name Patrick Cripps Melbourne Demons Team Carlton Blues Midfield Position Midfield 43 Career Games 67 Murray Bushrangers Origin East Fremantle July 22, 1997 Date of Birth March 18, 1995 20yr 9mth Age Turned 21 in 2016 187cm Height 195cm 83kg Weight 93kg 2015 National Draft Last Drafted In 2013 National Draft Round 1, Pick #4 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #13 Melbourne Demons Last Drafted By Carlton Blues 2018 Stats for Season 2016 8 Games 21 9.4 Kicks Per Game 8.4 18.9 Handballs Per Game 18.6 28.2 Disposals Per Game 26.9 2.9 Marks Per Game 3.2 0.5 Goals Per Game 0.5 0.5 Behinds Per Game 0.7 7.9 Tackles Per Game 6.6 0 Hitouts Per Game 1.7 4.4 Inside 50s Per Game 2.9 1.0 Goal Assists Per Game 0.4 1.6 Frees For Per Game 1.6 1.5 Frees Against Per Game 1.9 16.5 Contested Possessions Per Game 16.9 11.9 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 10.2 20.6 Effective Disposals Per Game 19.4 73% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 72.1% 4.1 Clangers Per Game 3.9 0.4 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3 0.4 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.4 7.5 Clearances Per Game 8.8 1.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 1.1 1.8 One Percenters Per Game 0.8 0.4 Bounces Per Game 0.6 82.4 Time On Ground % Per Game 83.8 2.9 Centre Clearances Per Game 3.5 4.6 Stoppage Clearances Per Game 5.3 7.4 Score Involvements Per Game 5.3 343.8 Metres Gained Per Game 177.4 3.8 Turnovers Per Game 3.5 4.2 Intercepts Per Game 2.6 1.5 Tackles Inside 50 Per Game 1.3 106.6 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 99.5 116.5 Supercoach Score Per Game 107.6

Game time this season is interesting, as is metres gained. I think they are both great players but given the choice I would take Oliver every time. He is the best young player I have seen. ---Table from footywire. Cripps Oliver 89.1 Time On Ground % Per Game 82.4 3.4 Centre Clearances Per Game 2.9 4.8 Stoppage Clearances Per Game 4.6 5.1 Score Involvements Per Game 7.4 247.0 Metres Gained Per Game 343.8 4.6 Turnovers Per Game 3.8 2.5 Intercepts Per Game 4.2 0.9 Tackles Inside 50 Per Game 1.5

Daisy one has to draw the line somewhere, and since the operation I can be of no further assistance.

Surely you jest.

Whilst slumming it in the Royal entourage can you take some snaps of Lady Penelope, I think she is the hottest of the royals.

I don't understand, football is being discussed here. I must be lost.

Ethan what have you done to yourself? Did you lose a bet? I will always remember you like this, Vomit

Generally sides in the 8 make the 8 is a bit of a motherhood statement, but I accept what you are saying. Generally 25% of sides in the 8 at round 9 don't make the final 8. Personally I hope that that is Adelaide & Hawthorn out for North & the Doggies but who knows.

So when you say, "Across the last 20 seasons the 8 does not alter after round 9" that means I can expect you to make statements with no basis in facts again. Thanks for the clarification. Some of us fess up when proven wrong. I thought Gysberts & Watts would be superstars.

That's what's wrong with his kicking, he needs it as a counter balance.

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Frankston, great idea, then they steal the car and torch it.

Pedantic! You said "Across the last 20 seasons the 8 does not alter after round 9" 2017 You are wrong 2016 Correct 2015 You are wrong 2014 You are wrong 2013 You are wrong Statistically you have ignored the facts. I have not bothered to go any further, I am not that pedantic. Edit:- OK I am pedantic. 2012 You are also wrong . Sorry about the bold, it won't go away. Edit 2 :- The 2012 to 2017 period there have been 48 final spots, of those over 25% of those in the 8 after round 9 do not reach the final 8. So as a rough guide it is an indicator. And it is obviously better to be in the 8. But as industry funds tell us, past results do not guarantee future results.

Last year round 9 Sydney were 12th - Western Bulldogs 8th - Sydney finished 6th Dogs 10th Or round 10 - Sydney 15th Dogs 4th Edit: Diamond Jim had pointed out anomalies before me. I hadn't read his fine effort.

Maybe we should start another thread in the footy forum.

Sorry Wise but it was, "an plonker".

Barney, I understand that you don't like Whateley, which AFL commentators/journalists do you like?

Bayshaw! Please fix the thread title. My head hurts.

Out of interest how does Casey compare in size and Gosch's paddock?

dworship I think in your case they may have used telling the truth as a defence. I have been vilified in this place and it is hard to talk about it but for the benefit of society at large here goes. I was called a, "schoolteacher type" I am surprised that that was not auto-censored. Prepare for my legal team, you know who you are.

It reminds the sadist in me of Scully & Trengove before Dustin Martin. Sorry

The focus should be on the commentators calling an umpire a liar. Edit:- Is this the only action on a football field caught by only one camera? Spare me, behind the goals vision would show it but nothing! Perhaps it doesn't suit the media beat up to show the facts. Edit2:- Come on media show the vision of no contact to the throat.

That is a when did you stop beating your wife question? I do not think he over handballs. He sometime gets it wrong, he misses targets but look where he gets the ball, the fact that he gets the ball away at all at times is a miracle. I would like to see more kicking but he probably will when Viney gets back.

6. Oliver 5. Brayshaw 4. Hogan 3. Gawn 2. Jones 1.O Mac

Frame by frame you can see Carlisle's hand momentarily at Hogans throat. The umpire was talking to Carlisle and about 10 metres away looking at them. The umpire did not guess he saw it. Free to Hogan no problem. Commentators like Watson besmirch the reputation of umpires and the victim when they make a call like this when they have not seen the incident. Hogan may or may not have over reacted, he was looking at the umpire as he was going down. But the throat contact happened.