mo64

"We rated his game as equal to the game last week, when he kicked five goals." That's the quote that I found disturbing. Little wonder we haven't looked like kicking 100 points in any game this year, when the coaches have this mindset. If he was promoted to the seniors, they'd be just as happy if he made 4 tackles than kick 3 goals. Amazing!

Thanks mousey for the report. I find the comments above really disturbing, and symptomatic of our malaise this season. Is the coaching panel trying to suck individual brilliance out of the players' game? Drawing reference from another code, Storm coach Craig Bellamy mentioned that after a couple of losses earlier this season, he felt that his coaching had become too focussed on playing disciplined football. The following week they came up against the unbeaten Broncos, and smashed them on the scoreboard. The scoreline wasn't a true reflection of the game, but the players were allowed to play with more flair, which resulted in a massive win. The Melbourne players look like they've had all the life sucked out of them, and the enjoyment of the game is not there. FCS, Bailey and Lovell, let the players play, especially a talented 17 year old kid like Maric.

I don't see anyone on our list who will develop into an elite key position player. And wouldn't getting Fevola be a quick fix?

We bemoan the fact that we don't have any elite players on our list, and yet you aren't prepared to get a superstar from another club. You can't develop the next Jonathon Brown. BTW, I don't think that Brown will leave the Lions, and I don't rate Fevola as an elite player.

There's a massive divide between being an able assistant and the head honcho. You can't quantify the role of an assistant coach. His track record as a senior AFL coach will determine whether he has good man management skills. And raising his coaching experience at Mt. Gravatt as an example is ridiculous, because the level of expectation in the QAFL is miniscule compared to the AFL.

I've read it all now! WTF do you base this on? The plumber and electrician at Mt. Gravatt may have responded to Bailey, but the professional footballers at the MFC certainly haven't warmed to his management skills.

Even if it takes 5-7 years? Because as Hards stated, our recruiting policy over the past 5 years has been built around hard in-and-under mids (McLean, Jones, Sylvia,) who aren't suited to a run and carry style.

If I was going by the best players, I'd be happier if I was a Hawks fan. Renouf, Kennedy and Morton have all got wraps about them, and McGlynn is a depth player. Whereas Garland, Yze and Warnock aren't the answer to our prayers.

You're pulling our pud, right? Surely this hasn't been sanctioned by the club. Because if it is, it would take them at least a month to analyse it before it gets sent to the supporters.

Well said. Take the $1.87 on Carlton to win by 18+ points.

After 4 completed rounds, your making an assessment of the coaches' future. Amazing

Brisbane is probably the only club that plays with a traditional Centre Half Forward and Full Forward. And they are a joy to watch.

I should have read mousey's link before I posted. What a bummer.

I've got no issue with Argus' CV, in fact I think he'll be fantastic for the club. I'm just making the point that the principles of good business and customer service apply to AFL football, just like every other industry. As an aside, it was mentioned in an article in today's Age that Graeme Samuel was also being courted for a role on the board. He would be an ideal president, as he understands the workings and politics of the AFL.

Rhino, in a previous post you vehemently argued that AFL football is like no other industry. So how does Argus' CV have any relevance to his ability to run a football club?

I'm referring to last year, when Gardner, half way through the season Gardner, stated that we were on track to record a $1m profit.

If that's the case, then it should have been communicated to all and sundry when Bailey took over. The club lives in a shroud of secrecy. That goes for Gardner with our financial position, and Bailey with our on-field position. No, what I'm saying is that we can't afford to go backwards in order to go forwards. We should be building on the current strengths of our playing list, not trying to mould players into what they're not. Did Geelong totally rebuild their list after years of finishing in the middle rungs, and then having a disastrous year in 2006?

For one of the few times I fully agree with Rhino's take. And people need to understand the nature of our club. Like the Kangaroos and the Bulldogs, we don't have a significant untapped supporter base. Our supporter/membership ratio is high. And without a mass supporter base, we will always struggle for corporate support. This reinforces my argument that sustained on-field success is critical. It doesn't mean that we have to win a flag every other year, but it's critical to be winning games and making the finals. This is why I'm so damning of Bailey. His actions go beyond the playing field. We can't afford to have a coach who's vision of success is long term. I find it ludicrous that so many posters on this site believe that Bailey should rebuild the playing list. As a club, we haven't got the time.

I'll take Jamie Shanahan over Nathan Carroll any day. Andy Goodwin and Simon Godfrey are worst for mine. Both tried hard, but were awful.

You've obviously never changed jobs. For what it's worth, I've tried to broaden my occupational horizons, including, wait for it, OWNING AND RUNNING A RESTAURANT. And for you to say that a football club is not like any other industry is tripe. If you hadn't noticed, the weak either die like Fitzroy, or get relocated like South Melbourne. And if we continue to be inept off the field, we will suffer the same fate.

FYI, I was at work at the time and didn't have access to the net, and the draft had been completed. And whether I had access to the net is irrelevant, I was made to feel like I was an annoyance to the club. And a football club is like every other industry. It's all about service. If you treat your customers like sh#t, expect some repercussions. I very much doubt that you have ever worked in a service related industry, because you come across as a pompous git.

Hopefully he does an Ian Botham after he is relieved of the captaincy.

What a load of BS. The whole point about DeeReaming's post is to point out the different mindsets of the 2 marketing department. He wasn't being self serving, and it had nothing to do with pleasing sponsors. A few years back, I rang the club to find out who we'd drafted in a preseason draft. The person on reception put me thru to a fairly senior official of the club, who proceeded to ask me who the eff I was, and wouldn't pass on the information. My response was to not renew my membership the following year. You see Rhino, it's just like going to restaurant and getting poor service. You never complain, you just don't go back there.

I hope that road isn't the Hume Highway, and we end up in West Sydney. And if Bailey has the full support of the board, he's in trouble.

For $5,000, I'll pull on a jumper. I probably won't get a kick, but at least I'll be following the captain's lead.