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I'll quote you then: "If i was an ordinary player wanting to keep my job at a club that may cease to exist - 1 weeks wage becomes an investment in my eyes."

It was he and 1 or 2 others on Demonlogy that were accusing the players of being "tight". He got shouted down by most, and now has the gall to raise Brock's contribution on Demonland. His comments on Demonology were a disgrace.

My sentiments exactly. Also Graham Gaunt's assertion that the players were being "tightwads" for previously only donating $10k amongst them, was also a disgrace. Fantastic effort by Brock and all the players.

Sandy's focus has always been about winning. And the issue of types of players coming in and out of the side impacts all VFL clubs with alliances, and along with injuries, hasn't been used as an excuse at Sandy in the past.

Barry's reports have been far from complimentary of Sandy's performances this year. I'd rather bow to his opinions than yours or Rhino. With the amount of experienced MFC players regularly playing at Sandy, the results have been poor. Lovell was the only casualty from the Geelong football department after their review, so you tell me what makes him a good coach?

We've had extra development coaches this year in Kelly O'Donnell and Mark Williams. I would have thought that Lovell's focus was on winning games for Sandy. In that regard, he's failed.

You don't rate Jones, Hannabal?

We can call it the MFC Money Laundering Account. I'm sure we'll get a few terrorist groups or drug barons who'd be more than happy with this arrangement. B)

Could a moderator pin the link to the debt demolition website onto the top of the board.

Fantastic effort by all those who attended. It moved me to donate $50 this morning. These statements made by Stynes and Lyon are important if the club is to move forward: "The main thing is, people like Joseph who maybe felt discouraged to be around the club for whatever reason, are encouraged to come back in," Stynes said. Lyon said the days of internal division at Melbourne were over. There are people on this forum who are quick to take potshots at the likes of Gutnick, Johnson, Guest, Ridley and Szondy for things that have happened in the past. If people continue to ridicule those who have given up their time and money to the club for nothing, we will go nowhere. Now is the time to move on, and embrace anyone who can help the club.

Are you suggesting that he's a chance of winning the NAB Rising Star? IMO, Morton will probably get a nomination before the season ends, but won't poll a vote in the award. Palmer, Cotchin and Rioli will get votes from all the judges, which leaves 2 players for the remaining votes. Ibbotson will get a vote from a majority of judges, and I'd say that both Garland and Aussie will get a vote from someone.

Read what you initially wrote you ignoramus. The FACTS were that Heffernan was traded for salary cap reasons, and you just made up that [censored] about Sheedy threatening to play him in the reserves. Heffernan, Caracella and Blumfield all did the right thing by their club by agreeing to move, whereas Ferguson wouldn't. Your comparison is ridiculous, which isn't surprising given that you know jackshit about the game.

As usual, Rhino's wrong. We got Heffernen and the Dons pick 15 for our pick 12. In other words we virtually got Heffernan for nothing, because the Dons had salary cap problems.

Heffernan, Blumfield and Caracella were all required players at Essendon, but had to be shipped off for salary cap reasons. Totally different scenario to Ferguson, who the club wanted to trade, but he refused to go because he was under contract.

TAB Sportsbet have been pretty conservative with the line margin in recent Melbourne games, and rightfully so.

Trading for a draft pick somewhere between 25-35 doesn't guarantee that you'll get something of value.

Rhino the psychologist has spoken!

Jamar provided us a with a real contest at the stopages, and despite his bloopers, was very influential. I'm still not sold on PJ as a forward or a ruckman. He played there out of necessity this week and did quite well, but is not a long term option. BTW, Luke Darcy has been doing some ruck coaching down at the club. Speaking of ruckman, it made me cringe when I saw that Brad Moran kicked 4 goals for the Crows. The Crows used the draft pick that we gave them for Meesen to pick up Moran from the Roos.

All excellent points Chook. There are many on this forum who think that it's selfish when a player takes it upon himself to make things happen. Personally, I love this trait in a footballer, and have refrained from bagging Colin Sylvia.

I'm not. For starters, he's had an injury ravaged year, so physically he hasn't been at his best. He was recruited as a bottom age player, so he has plenty of physical and mental development left in him. But more importantly, from a list management perspective, who would be our key forwards next? Miller and a questionable Robertson. If you want to be a competitive side, you have to at least have some structure about your list.

I'm not talking about the coach and players' expectations. I'm referring to the greater football world, ie; media, supporters, board members. Bailey has yet to experience any of this pressure. Matty Knights was copping it from the media and supporters earlier in the year, even though he's a 1st year coach. To date, Bailey has had it easy.

I wish they had of delayed the 1988 grand final so it didn't clash with the 100m mens' final.

I've been a critic of DB, and remain so. It's the easiest job in the world to be a coach of a side that has no expectations of winning. Let's see how he's going in years 2 and 3, when there's pressure on the team to win, and the wolves are out. Three years out of the finals is something that this club can't financially afford.

According to some respected officials at under 18 level, the talent pool at the top end is deep. Unless a trade for Jono Brown or Kerr is negotiated, no 1st round picks will be traded.

In this year's draft, Davey won't be worth a 1st round pick.