Red and Blue realist

Amazingly we've only got 4 players who are over 190cm, Gawn, Lever, Frost and Hore. Sydney themselves only have 6. I wonder if this will be in the records book for the game with the shortest average height? Might have to ensure the little league kids are easily identified in case one ends up on the wing in the 3rd quarter.

Langdon for a 2nd will do, I doubt Freo will risk their 1st in a swap with us for next year, but would be a great move if we could pull that off as well. Schoenmakers will be 29 next season, he's also free agent so no draft pick needed. I wouldn't go anywhere near him though, he might play a few games if we have the same injury run but otherwise would be taking a young guys spot. Think we'll also be targeting a small forward, if not someone like Serong at the top end of the draft then maybe from a state league to make an instant impact, Lowson maybe? I think we'll keep Spargo who's still in contract and hope it's just been the 2nd year blues. I agree with your other delistings.

They've got Brissy's first, so a bit higher up this year than 7. But yeah, i could see the AFL being happier to give GC a mid or end of 1st round priority pick if they knew they were going to end up with the first 2 picks anyway. Even if Brissy drop back to 4th, which will give them around pick 16/17 (after academy picks) then it still rates King around pick 9/10, so I could see everyone being happy with us giving up pick 2 for King plus 16. And GC then getting pick 20 or so as the priority.

Values King at around pick 5, which would be fair. Realistically they already have Brissy's first pick (which is currently 17), and I'm assuming that if King really does want out that'll really strengthen the priority pick chance. So I'd say we'd end up with pick 3. I'd say Gold Coast will also prefer a more senior player than a pick from us, but along those lines I'd be offering up pick 3 and 21 (or next years second) plus Frost or OMac (offer OMac, but they'll probably want Frost) for King, Jack Martin and Brissy's first round pick this year.

Spot on rjay, given he's never played at the highest level he needs to show he has the capability to lead his own team. Chris Fagan is the only current AFL coach who never played at the level, but had extensive experience coaching his own sides before given a shot at an assistant level. Jennings has the reputation across the league as the best analyst of the game, and a great teacher but needs to show he can operate in his own right so he gets to get the opportunities afforded to ex-players.

Don't want to call Reiwoltd a liar but he is, they've only been on the field at the same time once, since Frost has been a Dee anyway. In that game Frost was a forward, it was in 2016 when Hogan kicked 7. Just another ex-player trying to guarantee a media job by creating headlines. Frost has no doubt improved massively this year, but I read that Collingwood directly targeted his man (Elliot) more than twice as much as any other forward. Just wondering if opposition teams understand his liabilities and are happy with the odd intercept/dashing run knowing that he's just as likely to give up or cause a few goals? I've sensed that when May and Lever are in the team opposition teams are trying to isolate Frost a lot more. Wonder what his worth would be if they don't re-sign him, if he's worth more to us than other teams might pay. Will they see his liabilities more than what he can do?

You took a select amount of what I said and tried to argue it, I tried to explain what l was saying, not changing what I was saying at all. Happy to chat if it's constructive but you went straight into a negative then told me I was wrong, even though it missed the original point.

Don't engage if you can't understand what's been written. Not everyone on here is as negative as you, so we're not all trying to smash all the players and coaches at every opportunity

I meant mentally, but clearly you didn't pick up on that.

It was more about freeing up Omac and getting him back in a position where he is a good contributor for us again, plus I thought he was much better than Petty yesterday. Sydney don't really play tall (unless buddy comes back) so they both might stay forward, with Hore coming in for May.

I'd prefer Petty went back and omac had another couple of games with a fair amount of freedom. It looks like he's smashed himself from pillar to post this year as well, so playing without as much pressure might do wonders for him heading into the preseason.

Apparently they only had 6 from their grand final side out. We had 9 from our prelim side. The quality of the overall game reflected that.

Think both will end up All Aust again this year

Frost was seriously horrible, couldn't get within 5 metres of his opponent today, he got lucky Elliott couldn't kick straight. Fritra, may and tracc our best by a long way

Logic be dammed, it's all the fault of Misson, goody, pert, Bartlett, McCartney, omac, watts and Jones.

Think most of the rumours are coming from Saints fans who think he'll go to play with his brother. He'll still get a top 5 pick plus more next year if he continues on like he is. The AFL will be ensuring the gold coast get way overs if any of their young guns leave, it's in their interest too. There's no way he'll be traded this year

That's one way to ensure gold coast get a priority pick! No way would they consider releasing him this year unless it's for massive overs, pick 2 would only be the start of the conversation

Thanks! I'd be hoping the club's go into the same level of detail as what you've got.

I'd still start May back, but move him forward if we get a bit of momentum. I also want to see Frost as the backup ruckman, if Petty goes in there we'll have no-one forward, plus a bit of Frost ball out of the middle could be entertaining if nothing else.

I'd like them to bring in Hore, and put hunt back forward with this plan. I agree with Preuss and OMac being the omissions with Lewis being sent to Howe in a negating role. I know he can't match him in the air but if he can block his run and general intercepting marks then we can hopefully keep those 'dirty balls' in the front half.

Seemed to suggest in the presser that they might go with Petty as the key forward then go smaller. Good idea if it is going to be wet and windy. The Pies certainly will be going small.

Think you're in the wrong thread if you're coming here with all clubs get their share of injuries. Go back and read it again and you'll see we've had more than our fair share. I know a lot on here have somehow completely forgot we made a prelim last year, so clearly our drafting and development hasn't been sub-par. There's 46 players on our list and on the weekend we had a total of 31 to choose from, this includes Jordan, Bradtke, Bedford and Chandler who are yet to make an AFL debut. The cupboard is bare, and it ain't down to drafting or development.

Wow, that's exactly the reason we only had 9 playing for Casey on the weekend, our inability to develop players and list cloggers. There isn't a list out there that wouldn't have a few 'cloggers' we've seen Steve Armstrong, Mitch Morton, Shoenmarkers, Townsend, Masten etc from recent times end up with premiership medals when most of their supporters would call them list cloggers. Our depth has been smashed this year with injury, so we've ended up having to play guys who might not have otherwise got a game, sometimes it works out others it doesn't. I was asking a question trying to get down to how far into our list we've had to go this year.

Spot on, or even make him go back to VFL/SANFL/WAFL level and earn it for 6 months then come through in the mid-season draft.

Fair bit of leverage taken with nearly everything in this post. May will turn 28 early next year. We got Lever and Petty for essentially Lachie O'Brien and Liam Stocker. Are you also saying that had we brought in more youth last draft that we wouldn't be in the same position? Surely we spent so many years going back to the draft that the time is to focus on winning, we made the prelim last year and you suggest that youth is the way to go?? We've had an ordinary season but in no way would a few extra young kids have made it any better.