Red and Blue realist

Have heard that, but still worth asking the question, there's not much else out there. Callum Moore from the tigers is stuck in the reserves but is more a 2nd/3rd tall, but might be ok

He'll need to prove he can play again before anyone gives him a shot, he's played nearly no footy for 4 years, or managed a game or 2 then breaks down. He was a super talent, but is he anymore? He's more likely to be a mid season pick next year rather than be taken in the normal draft

Patton from GWS, I know the Hawks have been mentioned but if he's knees ok then he's worth a look

I disagree on both fronts, objectively people don't think of trades as to how the players are playing right at this very minute, they take into consideration their past and how likely they are to produce that again. Given their ages etc. Langdon is playing the best he ever has while Brayshaw is down, but clearly has more talent so gets a much higher return. I don't want Gus traded either but if he requested to go then I'd be asking for someone like Cerra, plus more, so that's where we might Langdon came in as well. Again I think we'll keep Brayshaw for the longer term and end up paying a second rounder for Langdon.

That was just horrible all round, it looked like Jones called for the handball then ran off in a different direction, while Frost stood there with his hands in the air while his man ran past unopposed into an open goal.

Could be right about that, if Buddy is a chance to play again this season, I reckon the swans will put a line through him shortly.

Think this is about right, especially if they give GC a top end priority. I'd say we might even try and turn that second round pick into our 2020 2nd pick instead. I think that Hill could end up at Geelong as part of the Kelly trade though. No they wouldn't, Gus finished 3rd in the Brownlow last year and has proven class, just because he's had a down year doesn't mean he's value has dropped that much. He'd still warrant a first rounder on it's own, pick 10-15 or so. Hypothetically if he did want to go west with his brothers then I'd be asking for Cerra and Langdon with no picks exchanged, unless we were going for Hill as well.

After the last couple of weeks I reckon he'll go to Grimes, he's been good at keeping McGovern and Carlise accountable and stopping them from getting too many intercept opportunities. Quiet remarkable that he's being doing these sort of roles at this point in his career. I also get the feeling it might be his last game Saturday night, one last dance under the bright lights at the G then settles into a coaching role.

Spot on, I think with Lewis and Cross in the past we've shown we're prepared to have that conversation plus both of those spent time in the reserves, so we back it up too. I still think we should give Jones another year at a low base, but at the same rate it'll be his last.

Pick 2 for HIll would be a massive stretch, maybe pick 2 and our 3rd for Hill, Langdon and their first (pick 7)? Was that how it was put?

He's still getting a game each week, and hasn't been our worst. We don't want another JMac decision by pushing out someone who will, like Lewis, be told he might not be in the seniors each week. Clearly if Morris is right and we've only offer $260k, which would be less than half of what he's on now, then it will be based on him not being automatic best 22.

Now there's an article from Tom Morris saying he hasn't signed, that we've low balled him - https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-melbourne-cocaptain-nathan-jones-yet-to-agree-to-new-contract-after-initial-lowball-offer/news-story/cb3e2d4d62dc0cc05ea9e9fe29c38773 Who do you believe Tom Morris or Mick Warner and Jon Ralph???

He's back for at least 1 more year. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-rolling-footy-news-from-across-australia-for-monday-july-29-2019/live-coverage/6090ea8f90cda33abbc409c5399c9c23

Agree completely, plus when we have good forwards who can lock the ball in longer it'll give the mids a bit of a rest so they might be able to do the 2 way running longer, and for the backs to be better set up against quick balls coming in. Fitness is the key to any game plan, but our game plan in particular. Garlett hasn't been great for over 2 years now, but we need someone in his mold, a real livewire in the forward 50 that demands attention even on poor days or who can turn a half chance into a goal. We don't have anyone else on the list like that, Hannan maybe but he's looked well short of anything this year.

Jones just re-signed for 1 more year, plus confirmation that Lewis won't go on - https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-daily-rolling-footy-news-from-across-australia-for-monday-july-29-2019/live-coverage/6090ea8f90cda33abbc409c5399c9c23 (behind paywall)

We've been missing TMac, Weid, Melksham, AVB and Garlett for these reasons. Plus at the start of the season TMac was clearly not fit. Our best games last year were when we locked the ball relentlessly in our forward 50, the pressure of Trac, ANB (who's been out of form/injured this year), AVB, Hannan etc. gave us the best opportunities to score. Unfortunately this year as soon as we got the backline semi healthy the forward line got destroyed.

Trac with a sore back might not get a crack at the Tiges. If there's even the slightest sense it could flair up then they should pull him for the season, backs can play up for a long time unless there's absolutely no issue then he should be rested. I'd love to see Hore and May come in so we get to see how May, Lever, Jetta, Hibberd, Hore and Frost play together. It will release Salem as well, Jones and he can be the 6th/mid option down there. Jetta has been ordinary but I'd keep him purely just to get used to playing with the others. Hibberd might again tag Martin, so can go back when he goes forward. The wagners both committed horrible turnovers (as a lot did), but they offered nothing else, sand we know enough about them now. Baker was also poor but should be given more time to find his feet at the top level. My in: May, Hore, Melksham and Lockhart Outs: Wagners x2; Trac and OMac. Not convinced with Preuss coming in for TSmith (even though smith was ordinary), I'd love to see Preuss play at least 50% at Casey forward to work on what he needs to do there, just a pity Weid got concussed because he should have come back in.

I wish it was an exaggeration, however he directly handballed the ball to a St Kilda player, he also let his man run from besides him into an open goal, he didn't put a body on his man who was free to jump at the ball when it landed short, he tapped the ball when on the ground away from himself into a crowd of saints players, add to this the goals his man got from leads/lose checking. Seriously, he did some nice things early in the game with intercept marks and pressure, but he make some very very ordinary errors, and does so multiple times a game. He's a fair better player when he has May next to him telling him what to do. He's got great speed and strength which has come out this year, but opposition teams also target him becasue he would have close to the lowest footy IQ in the whole comp. That's why I think he'll be a good player in a strong defense but could never be allowed to roam the wing where he has to make decisions on his own.

He's had some ordinary games up forward, so the move back might have helped his long term future while also plugging gaps while we were short.

Fritsch was played back because we were missing May, lever and Jetta four so long and Hibberd missed time as well, it was a necessity move. Now we've got some of those back he's been able to go forward. Frost doesn't have the smarts to play on the wing, he's got speed and strength but doesn't know where the ball is half the time. He's been much better back when May's there to tell him what to do, but even in his good games he'll still cost us a couple of goals. Last night was a great example of a Frost game, took some great marks and took the go on but probably directly cost us 5 or more goals

I reckon that's where a guy like Lewis is worth is weight in gold, he's been through that at Hawthorn. from what I've heard the morale within the team is still very very good, even when there a incidents like May vs Frost it's done in a respectful way and all end up happy. Hoping that points to a strong culture that will drive us forward next year with a bit better management of injuries, more experience and a little luck (every contender needs a little luck).

I disagree completely, Preuss was utterly terrible last week and very ordinary the week before, are you saying they should reward him by keeping him in the team just because they let TMac find form? TMac has produced a 50+ goal season the one before. I agree that he might have been left in too long way out of form, but he found it again before he got injured. Preuss has now played 5 games for us and a total of 13 for his career, so has nothing to compel selectors into giving him another chance for now. He needs to perform in a secondary role not just the ruck and hasn't been able to show he can do that yet, and Gawn is clearly dominate without him anyway. They should be playing him as a forward at Casey (and relief ruck), so he gets the chance to work on his forward craft.

Spargo, Hannan and Maynard all out, not sure why the reasons given none were mentioned in any injury reports, but could they have been given the same treatment as OMac and sent away for special fitness training? Both Hannan and Spargo have looked to lose a bit of their spark from last year so maybe their trying to find that before the seasons done so they can work on hitting the preseason at full tilt?

I'm interested in Lewis role this week, I love that at the end of his career they aren't just shuffling him to the back flank anymore. He's done jobs on Murphy, Bont and McGovern, so if I was betting I think they might try him on Ross or even forward on Savage? Anyone else got thoughts on the negating role Lewis will do?

Summed it up perfectly, the meltdown on here has been great though!