Red and Blue realist

I'd still start May back, but move him forward if we get a bit of momentum. I also want to see Frost as the backup ruckman, if Petty goes in there we'll have no-one forward, plus a bit of Frost ball out of the middle could be entertaining if nothing else.

I'd like them to bring in Hore, and put hunt back forward with this plan. I agree with Preuss and OMac being the omissions with Lewis being sent to Howe in a negating role. I know he can't match him in the air but if he can block his run and general intercepting marks then we can hopefully keep those 'dirty balls' in the front half.

Seemed to suggest in the presser that they might go with Petty as the key forward then go smaller. Good idea if it is going to be wet and windy. The Pies certainly will be going small.

Think you're in the wrong thread if you're coming here with all clubs get their share of injuries. Go back and read it again and you'll see we've had more than our fair share. I know a lot on here have somehow completely forgot we made a prelim last year, so clearly our drafting and development hasn't been sub-par. There's 46 players on our list and on the weekend we had a total of 31 to choose from, this includes Jordan, Bradtke, Bedford and Chandler who are yet to make an AFL debut. The cupboard is bare, and it ain't down to drafting or development.

Wow, that's exactly the reason we only had 9 playing for Casey on the weekend, our inability to develop players and list cloggers. There isn't a list out there that wouldn't have a few 'cloggers' we've seen Steve Armstrong, Mitch Morton, Shoenmarkers, Townsend, Masten etc from recent times end up with premiership medals when most of their supporters would call them list cloggers. Our depth has been smashed this year with injury, so we've ended up having to play guys who might not have otherwise got a game, sometimes it works out others it doesn't. I was asking a question trying to get down to how far into our list we've had to go this year.

Spot on, or even make him go back to VFL/SANFL/WAFL level and earn it for 6 months then come through in the mid-season draft.

Fair bit of leverage taken with nearly everything in this post. May will turn 28 early next year. We got Lever and Petty for essentially Lachie O'Brien and Liam Stocker. Are you also saying that had we brought in more youth last draft that we wouldn't be in the same position? Surely we spent so many years going back to the draft that the time is to focus on winning, we made the prelim last year and you suggest that youth is the way to go?? We've had an ordinary season but in no way would a few extra young kids have made it any better.

Great thread @fr_ap, do you happen to have a list of what was seen as the best 22 from each club? Was it Champion data's list or something your contact came up with? I'd be interested to see it expanded out to include the 4 emergencies or even the best 30 from each club. Just because I think, not only have we had injuries to our best 22 but also our depth has been non-existent. Regularly at Casey we've had less than 10 AFL list players, including first year players such as Jordan, Bradtke and Bedford etc. who are nowhere near making the AFL side at the moment, Even on the weekend Richmond's VFL side had something like 18 AFL listed players to our 9.

I couldn't see him going to the gold coast, if you've ever warn a helmet playing then you know it's like playing on a 25 degree day when it's only 10 outside. Doing it up where it's consistently hotter will melt his brain

I think they already are, can't just be coincidence that Geelong have gone to [censored] after norf got rid of their Scott??

So are you saying Freo are after Jetta for Langdon and Hill for a 2nd rounder? Sounds ok, if Jetta wanted to go back to WA, but it's not really been mentioned before.

If we bring in May and hore and don't loose lever, then I'd love to see Frost go in there. Try some Frost ball from the centre with no expections

I don't agree with those calling for May going forward, if he's back the more games they get with him and lever add in Frost, hore etc. down back together the better it'll be for next year. Don't mind omac going forward because like petty I think they are additions to the backline not keys. I'd bring in May and hore and move out Preuss and omac. Put hunt forward again and try going smaller down there

Surely that could only happen in games we're involved with???

Sorry mate, Adelaide and the dogs play in the last round, so even with a draw one of them will be above us. Looking good for 9th though

Gold coast have the most interest and connection so far. We've been mentioned because of the link to his brother but I'd prefer Langdon than SHill

Think most want him to stay, it's just what he's asking for and what he could be worth would be the question? Is that why there's nothing happening with his contract???

With any contract there's the 3 things at play, what the club thinks they are worth and are happy to pay ($ and term); what the player thinks they are worth and what other teams think they are worth. I just haven't got a sense if it's the club waiting, Frost demanding more or other clubs (via his manager) who are giving him reason to think. It was reported in some articles about our interest in BHill that we're weighing up how much we think he's worth, and maybe a delay on Frost and the low offer to Jones is about lining up the ducks for other moves and they see Frost as a piece that will fall into play later on?? The danger with that is isolating the player, like it sounds like Adelaide are doing at the moment.

Wondering if he sees himself (or his agent see's him) in that 10-14 bracket already and is asking for $$$ and a term that reflects that? There's just be no noise about his contract which is very strange for a guy who's played all season?

I think Lever is fine for a guy coming off a knee reco, he's never going to be in that 'key defender' role, 3rd tall is his best position and the one I'm sure we got him to do. He is a key to the backline, if we have May being aggressive in not only taking on the oppositions key forwards but also the game, then we need another tall to stand the other tall forwards, and Lever can float in taking intercept marks and setting up the backline. I think another summer will bring the backline together even better, but happy there getting a few games together at the end of the season.

I do wonder if he's looking at this contract as one where he can load up a bit. He wouldn't be on huge money at the moment I wouldn't think, when he last signed he was very much a fringe player. So maybe he's asking both for a longer term and bigger dollars????

Just wondering if anyone on here has heard anything about the contract status for Frosty? He's still unsigned and I can't find any information anywhere to show that they are even in talks. I would imagine he's one on our list who could have a bit of currency, so are we holding off to see if he could net us something, knowing we also got OMac, Petty and even Hore as taller defenders, assuming May and Lever are our keys and those others are pieces to fit around them. If they do see him as potential trade bait, what's his worth? We paid an 2nd rounder for him but got back a late 2nd and a 3rd. Remarkably we got Frost, OMac and ANB for a pick who ended up being Pat McKenna, who made his way to us a few years later.

If GC get a priority pick and we go back to 3 then I reckon 3 + 2020 2nd for pick 8, Hill & Langdon would be around the mark.

They very well might have asked the question, then GWS managed to ship out Scully, Lobb and Shiel who were all on much bigger contracts so they no longer might have had a need to get rid of Finlayson, without getting a really good return for him. Unless you know the full details, wanting a player and not getting them is not always a missed opportunity and rhetoric such as the above is just about having another shot at the club.

At least Jones will have a decent crack if it's his turn to go, while Ellis will be waiting on the outside.