If we snare Judd

[demon_fanatic 4]

I will be happy giving up pick 4 21 and 9 who we seem to be getting from the saints in exchange for Frawley if the rumours are correct.... also with Robbo probably going to the dogs for their 2nd round pick....

It leaves us with huge huge holes in the key position posts and ruck, down back we will only be left with Rivers, Carroll and Ferguson (not in our top 22), down forward the only key position players are Neitz, Newton and Miller (on fringe of 22)...

Also the ruck situation is a huge problem but there is no way we can fill all these holes in the next year or two unfortunately if we are trading away most of our picks this year....

If we are getting Judd we are obviously intent on winning a flag in the next 6 years while we still have the core of Bruce, Green, Johnstone, White together.....

I worry about or backline minus frawley it leaves us with only Rivers and Carroll as key talls, i aint including Ferguson as we need better to win a flag... i think down forward can be fixed even without robbo.......

My solution to the forward line problem is reinvent green as the leading forward pocket player and get davey back in the forward line permanently but maybe at the 50 m line to shark Bate and Miller.. play Miller and Bate as permanent CHF'S leading types all year with davey and green as the small forwards..... with judd in the middle it can allow us to try this...

F: Newton, Neitz, Green/Reinvented Yze

HF: Bate, Miler, Davey

but the backline is the worry in terms of key quality talls, heres hoping wheels can come back fit and firing though as our small backs look good...

B: Whelan, Carroll, Bell

HB: Petterd, Rivers, Wheatley/Pick 20 from dogs tall key back

that lineup looks good on paper but is definately one tall short no doubt especially bare it becomes if Rivers goes down....

The midfield lineup has a great look very positive: Judd, Mclean, Jones, Mcdonald, Bruce, Slyvia, Johnstone

Dunn and a fit Moloney and Bartram... thats 10 quality players with a mix of pace, hardness and skill!!

but yeh we need to stick to a key forward setup for the year and let Miller settle in if he is given a shot, not be in and out of the team, i still think Miller can offer us a good hit up target if given confidence that its his spot to hold for the year... davey back up forward is a must as our forward pressure was no existant this year...

All in all my verdict is we have great depth in the middle if we can remain relatively injury free, our forward line can be fixed by slotting davey and green down there as permanents..... while the backline no doubt needs one more young key tall hopefully we can find a gem in the draft..... but no doubt we need to address another key back and a ruckman replacement for White soon or gaping holes will appear with a few injuries....

PRIORITY

1. KEY BACK TO REPLACE FRAWLEY IF HE GOES

2. RUCKMAN TO BE GROOMED FOR START IN 2009

3. KEY FORWARD TO REPLACE NEITZ 2009

[Yze_Magic 3]

PRIORITY

1. KEY BACK TO REPLACE FRAWLEY IF HE GOES

2. RUCKMAN TO BE GROOMED FOR START IN 2009

3. KEY FORWARD TO REPLACE NEITZ 2009

1. Frawley is no guarantee to go, its all [censored] rumours at the moment.

2. John Meesen is coming to the MFC so thats covered, but we still need another young ruck

3. Yes we need another up and coming key forward besides Newton

Will be good to see what Bailey can turn Colin Garland into as well. Key back?

[The Fergburger 0]

3. Yes we need another up and coming key forward besides Newton

I know the Perfect solution. Nick Sautner :lol:........Just Joking.

On a serious note, there is a kid who played in the TAC Cup Grand Final for the Calder Cannons and the name is Darcy Daniher. Strong mark, good kick and reads the play exceptionally well. If Sydney or Essendon don't pick him up under the F/S rule then i think he is the best Key Forward we should look at beyond the 1st round of the draft. On the other hand Henderson could possibly go top 3 so we should forget about him.

[Dee man 299]

2. John Meesen is coming to the MFC so thats covered, but we still need another young ruck

3. Yes we need another up and coming key forward besides Newton

Will be good to see what Bailey can turn Colin Garland into as well. Key back?

2. Don't jump the gun... but if we do get him, either Jamar and P Johnson are good enough to be backup ruckmen IMO, Johnson in particular as I see him holding down a spot up forward or down back

3. Bate, anyone?

[Jarka 767]

2. Don't jump the gun... but if we do get him, either Jamar and P Johnson are good enough to be backup ruckmen IMO, Johnson in particular as I see him holding down a spot up forward or down back

3. Bate, anyone?

I don't see Bate as a key forward, and from memory Bailey has already mentioned to play him and Dunn as midfielders

[The Backyard Charizard 1,178]

Dunn and Bate will be midfielders next year.... Bate has to work his coit off tho if he is planning on being in our best 22 if we get Judd!!!

We are all but guaranteed Meesen as a ruckman which only leaves us with a few holes in our backline as fas as I am concerned...

We will draft a decent player and if we can hold on to Frawley, with Rivers and Whelan back in the side we should be sweet to have a tilt at a top 4-6 position in 2008....

[Demondeb 8]

Dunn and Bate will be midfielders next year.... Bate has to work his coit off tho if he is planning on being in our best 22 if we get Judd!!!

We are all but guaranteed Meesen as a ruckman which only leaves us with a few holes in our backline as fas as I am concerned...

We will draft a decent player and if we can hold on to Frawley, with Rivers and Whelan back in the side we should be sweet to have a tilt at a top 4-6 position in 2008....

Ok, with all the Judd talk, I have totally overlooked this chat about this Meesen guy. Who is he, why is he what we want and what are we supposed to give up to get him?

[Thrice 216]

Ok, with all the Judd talk, I have totally overlooked this chat about this Meesen guy. Who is he, why is he what we want and what are we supposed to give up to get him?

Check out the thread in the regular footy discussion board. A quick precis though:

A 'mobile' ruckman selected by Adelaide with their 1st pick in 2004 draft

Not getting much of a run and from Victoria originally - wants to go home and is interested in us specifically (as we are with him).

Is willing to go into the PSD, where we'd be a big chance to get him as both Carlton and Richmond have both said their not interested in a ruck.

More likely that a trade would be done though for a lowly pick (either 3rd or 4th round).

[deanox 8,762]

we have offered him a contract, and he has nominated us. he has also been a bit injured, he was expected to make some noise this year and come on alright...

[Rogue 585]

If we are getting Judd we are obviously intent on winning a flag in the next 6 years while we still have the core of Bruce, Green, Johnstone, White together.....

How do you come up with the conclusion that if we want Judd we're intent on winning a flag while we have White and Bruce et al?

It'll be when our younger players - Jones, Bate, McLean etc - are hitting their prime.

White's 30 now, so it seems unlikely he can be part of a MFC premiership. Bruce is 28 - maybe.