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A question please: what did you think of Cooney's game last night, and his match-ups?

Biffinator.

He had a match-up?

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3 behinds, he was consistant:P

He likes to stand out side the packs, he has the ability to kill a side but never seems to do it.

I'm not a mammoth fan of Cooney. Shaun Higgins on the other hand . . .

obviously higgins played well last night..but theres no doubt Cooney is the better player. All class. U'd be idiotic to take Higgins beore Cooney at melbourne if we were offered one of them.

Cooney is rapidly becoming a disappointment. A monster in the under-age competition, he stood out. Now that he has to play with the big boys, he isn't the matchwinner any more. Certainly will not get his own ball, and appears not to work hard enough for the team.

Players in subsequent drafts have long passed him in terms of output.

Is he Footscrays version of TJ?

Conney is an absolute dud

I laughed my ass off when the soft bastard was drafted with the 1st pick, and then Walker was taken 2nd

leaving us with Sylvia, who will be twice as good as both

Cannot agree with the anti Cooney comments.........while I'm not his number 1 fan, the bloke is a gun player, and I have watched him play some ripping games for the Doggies.

And he does win his own ball.......when he is on, he is as hard at it as anyone.

He had a shocker last night........but he wasn't alone for the Dogs.

I would have him at the MFC in a heartbeat!

He had a fantastic patch of form mid year (Has kicked 20+ goals IIRC) but has dropped off a lot since the Dogs played Geelong.

His disposal can be crap at times, but he'll be a star for the Dogs eventually. Remember, it's his 4th year, and he's achieved more than anyone from the 2003 draft so far (Yes he has done more than Brock due to Brock's injuries), Gary Ablett Jnr never started playing consistently till this year and it's his 6th season in the AFL.

Sylvia will still be better though.

Yet Cooney was named in the best for the bulldogs last night. You guys are so biased. Cooney is a gun player and has been in the top brownlow favourites in previous seasons. I'd be extremely surprised if Sylvia ever got to half the level of Cooney.

Cooney is miles ahead of Walker, McLean and Sylvia.

He has shown he can play at the top level.

On the other hand, McLean mysterious cant throw a tagger. And injury aside, Sylvia has yet to produce.

It will be McLean's and Sylvia's fifth year next year, Bell will be in his sixth year. FCS, those three must deliver more and consistently. So far, all issues considered, the return on the investment in any of those three has not been high.

Cooney is miles ahead of Walker, McLean and Sylvia.

He has shown he can play at the top level.

On the other hand, McLean mysterious cant throw a tagger. And injury aside, Sylvia has yet to produce.

It will be McLean's and Sylvia's fifth year next year, Bell will be in his sixth year. FCS, those three must deliver more and consistently. So far, all issues considered, the return on the investment in any of those three has not been high.

Bell has delivered consistently since he got over the OP.

Has there been a more consistent defender this season?

McLean is struggling with injuries. Who knows how long the adductor injury has bothered him. He is, and will be, much MUCH better than Cooney in the long run. I'd like to see Cooney playing in the thick of the action at every bounce, without the likes of West taking away the best tagger.

He's a good player, but he doesn't work very hard, does he? He is their version of Yze, the younger years.

Cooney is miles ahead of Walker, McLean and Sylvia.

He has shown he can play at the top level.

On the other hand, McLean mysterious cant throw a tagger. And injury aside, Sylvia has yet to produce.

It will be McLean's and Sylvia's fifth year next year, Bell will be in his sixth year. FCS, those three must deliver more and consistently. So far, all issues considered, the return on the investment in any of those three has not been high.

You obviously havn't watch 2007 very closely.... injury aside Daniel Bell has been the one constant in our defensive half. He wouldn't have played a disappointing match from a personal perspective.

Think before you type, Champ.

You obviously havn't watch 2007 very closely.... injury aside Daniel Bell has been the one constant in our defensive half. He wouldn't have played a disappointing match from a personal perspective.

Think before you type, Champ.

In defence of Rhino, he’s talking about the current ROI of all three players.

Daniel Bell was our first pick in the 2002 draft and has taken 5 years to develop as a back pocket/flank. When you consider that Rivers was taken after him, it is a little sobering. Bell has impressed this year only.

At the risk of enflaming the worshippers, injuries or not, I don’t think Colin is going to make it.

The only one I’d disagree on is McLean. Aside from this year, I’d argue that McLean is equal, if not better than Cooney.

When viewed together, the ROI, to this stage, is fairly low.

Mclean is the best of the 2003 draft thus far. Better than Cooney. That's not to say Cooney isn't a good player, because he is, and if he could put it together consistently he'd be fantastic, but Mclean has achieved the most thus far. Cooney just had a error riddled game on the weekend. This time last year, he played a magnificent game, had 35 disposals and 5 goals against Adelaide in a BOG performance to help secure the Doggies a finals place. Mclean did him one better and won us a final :D hahaha Point is Cooney is a good footballer, and there's no need to rubbish him.

In defence of Rhino, he’s talking about the current ROI of all three players.

Daniel Bell was our first pick in the 2002 draft and has taken 5 years to develop as a back pocket/flank. When you consider that Rivers was taken after him, it is a little sobering. Bell has impressed this year only.

At the risk of enflaming the worshippers, injuries or not, I don’t think Colin is going to make it.

The only one I’d disagree on is McLean. Aside from this year, I’d argue that McLean is equal, if not better than Cooney.

When viewed together, the ROI, to this stage, is fairly low.

You have conveniently omitted the fact that Daniel Bell has been slaughtered by injury since his arrival at the club. No in fairness or not to Rhino he needs to do a little more research before making such ill informed statements.

Well done fatty. That's exactly the point.

Its obviously too hard for some.

You have conveniently omitted the fact that Daniel Bell has been slaughtered by injury since his arrival at the club. No in fairness or not to Rhino he needs to do a little more research before making such ill informed statements.

I'll quote it again Sleeve...

"So far, all issues considered, the return on the investment in any of those three has not been high."

Thanks and I call you if I need your research.

Yes the top 3 have all struggled to live up to expectations, injuries are a factor but the reality is all 3 have come into the league without natural positions. All 3 have effectively found themselves flankers whilst their teams hope they develop engines to enable them to play in the midfield. Compare that with Judd, Ball and Hodge, all midfielders at the under age and AFL level.

Let this be a lesson when we pick our first rounder this year, we need someone who will slot naturally into a position in the AFL, not someone who will have to learn a new position at the professional level and hence will struggle for a few years.

You have conveniently omitted the fact that Daniel Bell has been slaughtered by injury since his arrival at the club.

I didn't "conveniently" omit that fact. I deliberately left it out as its irrelevant to the argument.

For what its worth, I like Daniel Bell as a player. My comments are not meant to be an enditement indictment of him

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A question please: what did you think of Cooney's game last night, and his match-ups?

Biffinator.

I'd trade bruce for Cooney every dayof the week.

Cooney is still young, remember that.

He still has a lot of playing time in front of him, don't you worry about that.

Cannot agree with the anti Cooney comments.........while I'm not his number 1 fan, the bloke is a gun player, and I have watched him play some ripping games for the Doggies.

And he does win his own ball.......when he is on, he is as hard at it as anyone.

He had a shocker last night........but he wasn't alone for the Dogs.

I would have him at the MFC in a heartbeat!

Electrifying pace off the mark, can kick a long goal, good disposal, reads the play well, high clearance rate at stoppages, can take a mark and can be a matchwinner. Why would you want him?