When Brown tackled Davey without the ball, did we go and kick a goal from the next play phase???

We allowed the umpiring to become a factor by not kicking straight.

Because of this, the umpiring cost us the game as well our own poor play when the game was on the line.

When i watch the great teams play, they can shut a game down in the death when they have a lead.

eg. Spotting up targets and maintaining possession.

If unable to spot a target, get the ball down the line and over the boundary for a stoppage to bottle it up and eat up game time.

Flooding back with numbers in the final minutes, and not allow the manner of easy goals which we have allowed to lose the close ones.

We have been unable to do any of these things well, and they have to be a major priority to Riley and the new coach(if not Riley) for next year.

Pardon my naivety, but tripping is illegal right?

So how does the tribunal come into this?

If it does at all......

dont froget brock stuffing up in the goal square that cost a goal. we didnt seize our opportunities well enough. and yeah the umpiring was crap. like it has been all year.

When Brown tackled Davey without the ball, did we go and kick a goal from the next play phase???

We allowed the umpiring to become a factor by not kicking straight.

Because of this, the umpiring cost us the game as well our own poor play when the game was on the line.

When i watch the great teams play, they can shut a game down in the death when they have a lead.

eg. Spotting up targets and maintaining possession.

If unable to spot a target, get the ball down the line and over the boundary for a stoppage to bottle it up and eat up game time.

Flooding back with numbers in the final minutes, and not allow the manner of easy goals which we have allowed to lose the close ones.

We have been unable to do any of these things well, and they have to be a major priority to Riley and the new coach(if not Riley) for next year.

I agree with everything you said...so why is our stopping style of game...or lack of the umpires fault. I give up in this discussion. Stay narrow minded then

Of course the umpires didn't cost us the game occo, but they certainly didn't help either.......

Of course the umpires didn't cost us the game occo, but they certainly didn't help either.......

Yep , dead right

I think the umpire could be forgiven for thinking that the Bruce incident was just two players getting tangled up.

The free that made me more angry was the goal to Lucas after a clear push in the back in the first quarter. They've been paying them all year, then miss that one. Easy goal.

The umpiring didn't cost us the game. What cost us (among other things) was an atrocious clearance rate in the first quarter; poor kicking in the last (2 points Robbo, 2 points Neitz from relatively easy set shots ... forgive them for knee problems?) when we could have sealed it; leaving Essendon's forward line wide open in the last five minutes; and even with the last goal 3-4 players flying mindlessly into the pack leaving no-one between the pack and the goal mouth ... Lucas (and Lovett I think) were left by themselves with a clear path.

And could Nathan Brown please try not to get caught with the ball so often?

Pardon my naivety, but tripping is illegal right?

That's what cost Chris Grant a brownlow wasn't it (maybe McKernan)?

I think tripping by hand been taken off the reportable list but tripping and attempted tripping by foot are still on there.

We had plenty of chances to put the game beyond doubt (2.6 in the last quarter - aargh) but you're spot on, the umpires didn't help.

That's what cost Chris Grant a brownlow wasn't it (maybe McKernan)?

I think tripping by hand been taken off the reportable list but tripping and attempted tripping by foot are still on there.

We had plenty of chances to put the game beyond doubt (2.6 in the last quarter - aargh) but you're spot on, the umpires didn't help.

Trip?

That was no trip, it was a figure 4 leg lock executed in a style that would have done Mario Milano proud. I checked the rule book and there's nothing in there banning figure 4 leg locks so the umpire's decision to allow play on was correct.

nathan brown dragging it in and making no attempt to get rid of it cost us the game. He was poor all night, and that was where we lost it.

nathan brown dragging it in and making no attempt to get rid of it cost us the game. He was poor all night, and that was where we lost it.

Dont be a jerk

ok was at the game and it happened right in front of me 100% free kick to bruce still i was dirty on bruce too ...

the grab wasnt much of a grab too me it looked like bruce could of broke free if he really tried but elected to wait to see if he got the free kick

at the time of the game you cant take that chance of hoping the maggots will give u that free kik

Trip?

That was no trip, it was a figure 4 leg lock executed in a style that would have done Mario Milano proud. I checked the rule book and there's nothing in there banning figure 4 leg locks so the umpire's decision to allow play on was correct.

I stand corrected.

Yes, Bruce should have received a free kick.

Lloyd also took a mark on the goal line in the last quarter that wasn't paid which replays show it should of. 30 seconds later Brad Green received a push in the back which again replays show Lovett applied a pretty good tackle.

Newton received an awful free kick against Fletcher to gift Melbourne the first goal of the second quarter.

Even the push in the back to Bate which Lovett kicked the disallowed goal was debatable. I thought it was a push in the back, but at that stage of the game, I've seen alot worse let go.

And don't get me started on the push out paid against McPhee on Bate in the center of the ground in the 2nd quarter.

The umpiring at times was poor for both teams.

Newton received an awful free kick against Fletcher to gift Melbourne the first goal of the second quarter.

I thought that was there. Fletcher took Newton out of the contest just before the ball went over for a behind.

But its pretty predictable for everyone to blame the umps - YET AGAIN - after a loss.

I'm with OCCO here. Just blame our players who simply cant' protect close games.