How Many Weeks For Kozzy?

[John Crow Batty 8,763]

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

 

Second that The Tribunal  allowed an amendment to the charge during the hearing, yet on other hearings refused to allow amendments, like for example Hewett, who was found to have struck a player to the head with his hand, but vision showing they had alleged the wrong hand,  but clearly a strike with the other hand. Why was a proven strike simply not just amended to the correct hand. Instead they let him off.

 

 

As I said a few times in the past. For favoured players and clubs, I suspect errors in wording and structuring of the charge are deliberately introduced so later the charge can be dismissed on a technicality. The ‘wrong hand’ charge I have seen more than several times before.

Edited August 28 by John Crow Batty

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,408]

I know this will have been expressed here numerous times, and likely better, but this outcome has really got my goat. 

I appreciate Kozzy has been a little reckless from time to time - he plays at the edges etc, and honestly I think he has done well to reign it in a little.

But seriously, this punishment is BS!! You can't leave the ground, fine, but now you can't legitimately engage in a bump (which is what Kozzy tried to do, no question), because the other guy may slip/fall to the ground, causing an unintended concussion?? Are we just full outcome mode (depending on player, of course - I won't go into that), regardless of intent or context, because that's what it looks like.

What was Kozzy supposed to do? That move is performed dozens of times a week. A legitimate footy act. The chances of a concussion, or having regard to the possibility of a concussion while performing it, are so remote you can't possibly ask Kozzy to turn his mind to it while in the moment. 

Moore fell, Kozzy's legitimate bump accidentally caused injury - it's an unfortunate reality of a contact sport. If you punish this, there's nothing left. 

On a side note, it's bemusing that Moore/Maynard have both engaged in 'footy acts' and ended/possibly ended/impacted careers, and have received ZERO weeks COMBINED>

WHAT IS GOING ON?????

Edited August 28 by Red But Mostly Blue

[TassieDevil 137]

Moore dropped to his knees causing the collision and potentially injuring Kozzy.

Must appeal.

I'm still disappointed nobody skewered Maynard headfirst into the fence when he went at Kozzy - a legitimate football action

[Deemania since 56 6,547]

On 26/08/2024 at 10:12, Jaded No More said:

Surely we will challenge this ban. I don't think he gets off completely, but surely we can reduce the ban to 1 or 2 weeks only

By reducing the unwarranted penalty on Kozzie, it reinforces the arrogance and bias of those so appointed to determine penalties in play against their favoured brethren onfield. This level of decision-making has gone on too far, too often, too obviously across recent years, much to the disadvantage and now, the consistency of contested football for those teams just outside the revenue-attracting influences of a mere handful of a few anointed teams with greater, silent influence. 

[monoccular 17,305]

1 hour ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

WHAT IS GOING ON?????

Does the AFL wonder why some people suggest that they are an absolutely and totally corrupt body when the MRO and the Tribunal chair are both Collingwood people when there are such contradictory outcomes when Melbourne played Collingwood last week and in 2023 finals?

My guess is that they either don’t know or more likely just don’t care. 

[sue 8,998]

13 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Does the AFL wonder why some people suggest that they are an absolutely and totally corrupt body when the MRO and the Tribunal chair are both Collingwood people when there are such contradictory outcomes when Melbourne played Collingwood last week and in 2023 finals?

My guess is that they either don’t know or more likely just don’t care. 

They obviously don't care.  If they wanted to even bother with an appearance of justice, they'd ensure no one involved in any way with one of the clubs involved in the case was on the Tribunal.  One day a cashed up player may take them to court, denial of natural justice or somesuch.  I hope so.

Edited August 28 by sue

[daisycutter 29,265]

we're too soft ... we'll just roll over and cop it

3 whole damn weeks ffs ... great way to start a season

[Fork 'em 6,938]

On the night I thought Kozzie would go as he's got form.
Been reading the outrage over the last couple days here thinking you're all just biased.
Anyway ... I've just had a look again at the vision.
And I agree, Moore dropped at the last second when Kozzie was already committed to the bump.
Having said that we all know they're hot on those who "Choose to bump".
Problem is that penalties appear to depend on who the offenders are and which club they belong too.
Whenever there's a decision to be made the AFL follow the money.
If the decision potentially effects their bottom line they'll concoct some BS loophole to find the defended not guilty.
Makes no difference to them if Kozzie misses the first 3games next year.
But Patrick Cripps missing a final for eg ...
It'd be incidental contact, act of play yadda, yadda, yadda ... 

AFL and the MRP are corrupt AF.

[Nascent 8,605]

I'm still baffled about the severe grading.

Severe should be reserved for players knocked unconscious and escorted from a field on a stretcher or similar. Not those that get up immediately and take their kick and play another 10minutes.

[monoccular 17,305]

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

I'm still baffled about the severe grading.

Severe should be reserved for players knocked unconscious and escorted from a field on a stretcher or similar. Not those that get up immediately and take their kick and play another 10minutes.

Did our “defence expert” raise the issue that Moore played on for a while without having a concussion assessment??   If this occurred will Collingwood be sent a ‘please explain’?  

Did he ask if Moore, allegedly concussed, was reported as having beers with team mates in the days after the alleged concussion which is at odds with accepted concussion management if not mandatory requirements?  
 

Did the “impartial” tribunal chairman consider these issues?  
 

Or was this all preordained?  Big club “victim” of an “also ran club” player?   The head is sacrosanct except when it isn’t. 
 

 

Edited August 28 by monoccular
with v without

[SPC 3,475]

Which club is going to miss his first 3 games?

[Dee Zephyr 19,145]

Last I read we were assessing our options, how long do we get before we decide to appeal?

If we’ve accepted I’ve missed it.

[Dee*ceiving 1,630]

On 28/08/2024 at 13:15, Red But Mostly Blue said:

I know this will have been expressed here numerous times, and likely better, but this outcome has really got my goat. 

I appreciate Kozzy has been a little reckless from time to time - he plays at the edges etc, and honestly I think he has done well to reign it in a little.

But seriously, this punishment is BS!! You can't leave the ground, fine, but now you can't legitimately engage in a bump (which is what Kozzy tried to do, no question), because the other guy may slip/fall to the ground, causing an unintended concussion?? Are we just full outcome mode (depending on player, of course - I won't go into that), regardless of intent or context, because that's what it looks like.

What was Kozzy supposed to do? That move is performed dozens of times a week. A legitimate footy act. The chances of a concussion, or having regard to the possibility of a concussion while performing it, are so remote you can't possibly ask Kozzy to turn his mind to it while in the moment. 

Moore fell, Kozzy's legitimate bump accidentally caused injury - it's an unfortunate reality of a contact sport. If you punish this, there's nothing left. 

On a side note, it's bemusing that Moore/Maynard have both engaged in 'footy acts' and ended/possibly ended/impacted careers, and have received ZERO weeks COMBINED>

WHAT IS GOING ON?????

Outrageous. How lowering a shoulder when airborne and collinding with an opponents head only makes sense when it get's a Collingwood player off suspension during a finals campaign. 
I'd also love to know how a knee to the back at full force in an attempt to spoil is a football act. Moor did this twice in a month. Tracc then Jarrad Witts left with two cracked verterbrae. Nary a word spoken. 

Corrupt! 

5 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Last I read we were assessing our options, how long do we get before we decide to appeal?

If we’ve accepted I’ve missed it.

Don't know but I'd have thought that would have elapsed by now. Must appeal IMV