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Time to go Goody?

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1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

How're we travelling Macca

We are in the midst of embracing a new game plan and it's going to take some time

If the Board want to back Goodwin in they could extend his contract and back the bloke in

As a show of good faith

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    How long is Goodwin's contract?

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    On 28/03/2025 at 05:13, Flowergirl said:

    I hope no-one from the football team reads this. I would hate to have you as a fan.

    So we are complaining about the regular pressure AFL players face now. Give me a spell.

    I'm more worried about people that think the coach and players can do no wrong.

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    13 minutes ago, Macca said:

    How long is Goodwin's contract?

    I believe 2026 (end of )

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    1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

    I believe 2026 (end of )

    So 2 years to get the new game plan into full swing

    Enjoy the journey, Bub

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    1 minute ago, Macca said:

    So 2 years to get the new game plan into full swing

    Enjoy the journey, Bub

    It's but a contract...which we know is worthless ( comparatively) in Footy.

    Do you enjoy misery Macca ... that's what's on offer. And you would by choice.

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    7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    Do you enjoy misery Macca

    Not when there's hope involved

    I'm predicting a year of indifferent performances and finals next yesr

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    5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    It's but a contract...which we know is worthless ( comparatively) in Footy.

    Do you enjoy misery Macca ... that's what's on offer. And you would by choice.

    So much perfunctry advice on here we are blessed with such insightfull collegues

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    32 minutes ago, Macca said:

    We are in the midst of embracing a new game plan and it's going to take some time

    If the Board want to back Goodwin in they could extend his contract and back the bloke in

    As a show of good faith

    What exactly is our new game plan though? The last two weeks I've seen absolutely no system or cohesion at all. Nobody seems to know what they're doing.

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    @beelzebub

    A replacement coach would still have the same issues implementing a new game plan

    A new voice right now might actually make matters worse and confuse the players

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    Just now, Hopeful Demon said:

    What exactly is our new game plan though? The last two weeks I've seen absolutely no system or cohesion at all. Nobody seems to know what they're doing.

    The players aren't adapting, that's the issue

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    2 hours ago, Macca said:

    To just blame the coach is too simplistic.

    You didn't need the "too".

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    25 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

    So we are complaining about the regular pressure AFL players face now. Give me a spell.

    I'm more worried about people that think the coach and players can do no wrong.

    No-one said anyone can do no wrong. I just think people should appreciate the fact that these players and coaches are human beings. Be frustrated at where the team is at, I certainly am, but some of the language on here is just pitiful.

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    Just now, Macca said:

    The players aren't adapting, that's the issue

    Compounded by the fact that the players we've deliberately brought in to help drive and implement a more transition-based game plan have been largely unavailable.

    Doubly compounded by the fact that we can't even keep any team on the field, yet alone one put together for a new approach. The constant changes both across games, but also IN games (losing Jefferson and then Lindsay early in the last 2 games) is the opposite of settled and consistent.

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    4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    You didn't need the "too".

    Ha ha!

    The folk here need to be patient

    We're trying to enact a game plan that is a long way from where we were at, previously

    And it's no surprise that the older players are slow to change

    As previously stated, if we can somehow get Oliver, Viney & Petracca to change their ways, we're a chance (big ask)

    But we might be better off with a (somewhat) rebuilt list and that's going to take some time?

    How long? I reckon half way through next year could see a turning point

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    4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Compounded by the fact that the players we've deliberately brought in to help drive and implement a more transition-based game plan have been largely unavailable.

    Doubly compounded by the fact that we can't even keep any team on the field, yet alone one put together for a new approach. The constant changes both across games, but also IN games (losing Jefferson and then Lindsay early in the last 2 games) is the opposite of settled and consistent.

    Agreed

    Folk here need to think back to just last year where we tried Plan B but had to resort back to Plan A when the players just couldn't adapt.

    So it is no easy task

    So just last year we were still bombing the ball to either pocket as our default game plan

    So now, we're having another go at Plan B because we have to

    But again, changing a game plan in such a vastly different way will see indifferent results

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    Just now, Macca said:

    But we might be better off with a (sonewhat) rebuilt list and that's going to take some time?

    How long? I reckon half way through next year could see a turning point

    Everyone's all over the Hollywood Hawks, but it has taken them what, 6 years to transition from the old guard to the new?

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    1 minute ago, bing181 said:

    Everyone's all over the Hollywood Hawks, but it has taken them what, 6 years to transition from the old guard to the new?

    The Hawks are a very confident group and that can advance a new game plan

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    2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Everyone's all over the Hollywood Hawks, but it has taken them what, 6 years to transition from the old guard to the new?

    And how they ruthlessly did it, is what we should be looking at.... cash in while we can.

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    On 29/03/2025 at 20:02, FearTheBeard said:

    Simon is a moron. That’s all.

    What an idiotic and disrespectful comment,
    Surely you are not a MFC supporter!

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    22 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Ha ha!

    The folk here need to be patient

    We're trying to enact a game plan that is a long way from where we were at, previously

    And it's no surprise that the older players are slow to change

    As previously stated, if we can somehow get Oliver, Viney & Petracca to change their ways, we're a chance (big ask)

    But we might be better off with a (somewhat) rebuilt list and that's going to take some time?

    How long? I reckon half way through next year could see a turning point

    What is the game plan in your opinion Macca?

    All I see that's changed is chipping in the backline more than ever, leading to indecisiveness, before the inevitable turnover.

    I honestly don't know what we are trying to achieve?

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    5 minutes ago, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

    What is the game plan in your opinion Macca?

    All I see that's changed is chipping in the backline more than ever, leading to indecisiveness, before the inevitable turnover.

    I honestly don't know what we are trying to achieve?

    The new game plan is a work in progress

    Previously, our game often eventuated with a long bomb to the pocket

    So I'd say we are now trying to move the ball in similar ways as the better teams

    Quick ball movement, corridor use, leg speed to complement, crisp delivery by hand or by footy, 45° diagonal kicks cross-crossing the ball forward. Lowering the eyes and so much more

    But here's the thing, I'm not part of the inner sanctum so there's probably a lot in there that isn't transparent

    The fact that the above isn't happening yet doesn't mean that the endeavour and goal isn't there to make it work

    What complicates things is the turmoil in the off season and the constant references to Petracca, Oliver & Kozzie perhaps wanting out

    What would all the other players make of all that?

    I'd say it slows down the buy-in to the new game plan

    So if people here reckon there are problems at the club, the above is probably the reason

    My view only ... if a player acts like a Prima-Donna they immediately become commodities only and we'd be better off with those types on the trade table

    No sentiment, it's all about the team

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    9 minutes ago, Macca said:

    The new game plan is a work in progress

    Previously, our game often eventuated with a long bomb to the pocket

    So I'd say we are now trying to move the ball in similar ways as the better teams

    Quick ball movement, corridor use, leg speed to complement, crisp delivery by hand or by footy, 45° diagonal kicks cross-crossing the ball forward. Lowering the eyes and so much more

    But here's the thing, I'm not part of the inner sanctum so there's probably a lot in there that isn't transparent

    The fact that the above isn't happening yet doesn't mean that the endeavour and goal isn't there to make it work

    What complicates things is the turmoil in the off season and the constant references to Petracca, Oliver & Kozzie perhaps wanting out

    What would all the other players make of all that?

    I'd say it slows down the buy-in to the new game plan

    So if people here reckon there are problems at the club, the above is probably the reason

    My view only ... if a player acts like a Prima-Donna they immediately become commodities only and we'd be better off with those types on the trade table

    No sentiment, it's all about the team

    Can you give an example of when we've actually tried to do any of those things? All I see at the moment is an even worse version of our 2024 system.

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    I think the plan will come together I’m just not convinced it’ll do so in time to save Goodwin. I also think we’ve had too many injuries to start the year as well as we hoped. McVee and Windsor are critical to a new way as I think Lindsay was. May and Lever obviously critical. We need all those 5 on the park. I prefer Rivers off half back and doubt Salem has much use left in him beside a good quarter here and there.

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    Do people here remember what happened when we replaced Neeld with Craig

    We still lost and we still got smashed with that boundary hugging football nonsense. Craig went with Neeld's plan

    So if we replace Goodwin what game plan would an interim coach employ? The old plan where we go back to bombing it long to the pockets?

    Or continue on with Plan B which the sacked coach was trying to implement?

    Plan C? How is that going to work mid season?

    We may as well see it out until at least the end of the season. And in my view, that is how the Board will see it

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