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dazzledavey36
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Good little article and analysis by David King (Still annoys me) which explains about the importance of our kick outs by Steven May.

I think this has frustrated fans by being so one dimensional but seems to be another of our key stat that's working well for us.

 

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    I suspect this is one of the parts of the game that we deliberately targeted two top tier ruckman for.

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    Interesting that King comes out with this article a week after we were discussing the lack of MFC coverage despite being in the top 4 scores from stoppages, scores from turnovers and scores from kick outs.

    He's probably chosen the scores from kick outs as he can undertake a crude analysis of them and point to derpy derp May kick outs.

    Can you tell I don't rate King's analysis? :P The Diamond Defence is about the only analysis of his I've liked.

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    6 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

    I would love to hear an interview with our Performance Data Scientist Robert Younger ... l am almost certain our kick in strategy, kicks inside 50, and many other parts of our game plan are heavily influenced by his analysis. 

    https://www.figuringfooty.com/2016/06/29/goal-kicking-accuracy-maps-expscore/

    I was thinkin exactly the same thing @Demonland

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    3 minutes ago, A F said:

    Interesting that King comes out with this article a week after we were discussing the lack of MFC coverage despite being in the top 4 scores from stoppages, scores from turnovers and scores from kick outs.

    He's probably chosen the scores from kick outs as he can undertake a crude analysis of them and point to derpy derp May kick outs.

    Can you tell I don't rate King's analysis? :P The Diamond Defence is about the only analysis of his I've liked.

    From what I read he didn't account for the fact that teams like hawthorn are kicking out a lot more than us. But maybe that happened on the show.

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    7 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

    I would love to hear an interview with our Performance Data Scientist Robert Younger ... l am almost certain our kick in strategy, kicks inside 50, and many other parts of our game plan are heavily influenced by his analysis. 

    https://www.figuringfooty.com/2016/06/29/goal-kicking-accuracy-maps-expscore/

    Interesting. As I was reading it I wondered how he defined a "shot" to get the percentages and it was good that he recognised the issues there at the end with shots that don't either score or go out of bounds not being counted.

    A kick to the top of the square - how do you know if that's a shot that has fallen short or an attempt to generate a high quality shot from that area?

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    Two things we would have asked for at the start of the year.

    - Better kick-out strategy

    - Improved set shot accuracy.

     

    We're doing something right. 

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