58 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

My son showed me some that he’d found. Absolutely vile and totally unnecessary. But I guess that’s the world in which we live. 🤷‍♀️ 

yeah, social media is where you go when you want to hate.  lotsa haters out there hiding behind their keyboards.

7 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

My son showed me some that he’d found. Absolutely vile and totally unnecessary. But I guess that’s the world in which we live. 🤷‍♀️ 

I'm not going to begrudge the Irish from hating the English monarch.

7 minutes ago, Chook said:

I'm not going to begrudge the Irish from hating the English monarch.

Fairly understandable when you think about it. 
i was always suprised when she survived an Irish visit 

She was fairly tough QE2

When does the official fawning period end? 

If the queen places her bag to her right it means go get me 20 Rothmans, if to her left it neans ask Ross how his knee is these says . If  she sticks it on the ground it means get me a slab, but not that VB s**t.  (From A Royal Courtier's Guidebook to the VFL, Rich v Fitzroy at Waaaaaaverkey, 1971).

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Britain will apparently spend huge sums of money changing all the EIIR insignia to CIIIR.

I'm wondering whether the British Post Office will become CIIIPO. 🙂

10 hours ago, Chook said:

I'm not going to begrudge the Irish from hating the English monarch.

Oh, nor am I! Like I said, when you’re the product of two extremely devout Catholics and you were born in Dublin, you have zero choice in terms of loathing the Royals. It’s just the words some people use. And while my parents fully brainwashed me and my many siblings (Irish/Catholic, so yeah many siblings 😁) to their credit they never uttered a vile word about the Royals. It can and should be expressed without the disgusting element. 

33 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Britain will apparently spend huge sums of money changing all the EIIR insignia to CIIIR.

I'm wondering whether the British Post Office will become CIIIPO. 🙂

well at least it has been a long time since the last change of insignia. that must have saved huge sums

Many years ago, I stayed in a B&B in Edinburgh. The patriarch of the host family liked to have breakfast with the guests. Somehow the conversation came around to Liz. (Quite possibly a frequent occurrence in that house.) "Ayyyyye. The second of *England*. But the fust of Sco'land!!" The sheer contempt in his voice. This goes all the way back to James I. (I know the general enmity goes back further than that.)

Diff. with Ireland is that the conflict is still in the living memory.

Echoes of ill-feeling toward the retreating empire linger all over the world, even in its own backyard. It's only to be expected that this moment has roused them to new life.

On a related note. Respect for "the monarchy" is constantly conflated with respect for the persona of Elizabeth II. For many people they are one and the same. We see this in the pro-monarchy movement here in Oz: "but the Queen is such a stalwart lady who commands the highest respect. You want to get rid of HER?" It's a different ball game now, and people are going to see that there is the institution of monarchy, and then there's the sitting monarch, whom you may not like. Two different things and the latter may lead to a re-appraisal of the former.

That's why we have seen the pro-republic movement more or less sit on its hands for the last 20-odd years. It's an unwinnable debate as long as the Queen reigned.

58 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Britain will apparently spend huge sums of money changing all the EIIR insignia to CIIIR.

I'm wondering whether the British Post Office will become CIIIPO. 🙂

To kill your joke (sorry), I believe it will be just CR, not CIIIR.