Demonstone's and Flaubert's English Grammar for Demonlanders 101

[WalkingCivilWar]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Qualifier to enter this thread:

‘Misspelled’ is not misspelled according to American English, Australian English and UK English. 
So, what’s the answer, Layz? Do tell!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

To say it's a cliched, catch-all pejorative would be to risk straying into the muddy waters of politics.   

 

The term 'woke' was appropriated by self appointed social justice movements largely after the political earthquake of 2016.

It was borrowed from a speech by Martin Luther King called 'Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution' that praised the advances of the civil rights revolution but cautioned vigilance against injustice wherever one may see it.

Sadly, depending on what section of the corporate media one consumes, one half of the culture war view the term as a predefined set of expressed opinions that makes one part of polite society and proves one's virtuousness. The other half of the culture war view it as a cover all snarl word to instantly shut down debate about anything they don't like or feel uncomfortable with. 

The same thing happened with the term 'politically correct'. Woke is just another terminology that has been bastardized to keep the eternal [censored] match going between boomers and millenials.

Edited August 3 by Colin B. Flaubert

[layzie]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

‘Misspelled’ is not misspelled according to American English, Australian English and UK English. 
So, what’s the answer, Layz? Do tell!

And that is the correct answer WCW!

[WalkingCivilWar]

22 minutes ago, layzie said:

And that is the correct answer WCW!

Yeah nah, not getting it. What is the correct answer? Is it that there is no misspelled word in the sentence? If so, that’s not really a riddle. It’s basically just a lie.  

Oh, I just got it! But technically the word “misspelled” should be in quotation marks. 

Edited August 3 by WalkingCivilWar

[Mel Bourne]

3 hours ago, layzie said:

Qualifier to enter this thread:

Indeed it is. Another word in that sentence is “sentence”. 

[layzie]

4 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Indeed it is. Another word in that sentence is “sentence”. 

Smashed it Mel Bourne!

[layzie]

5 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yeah nah, not getting it. What is the correct answer? Is it that there is no misspelled word in the sentence? If so, that’s not really a riddle. It’s basically just a lie.  

Oh, I just got it! But technically the word “misspelled” should be in quotation marks. 

Yeah pretty much. Trick question, because of love to take things beyond the basic mechanics of things. As a matter of fact, I didn't even give you my coat!

[WalkingCivilWar]

31 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah pretty much. Trick question, because of love to take things beyond the basic mechanics of things. As a matter of fact, I didn't even give you my coat!

Should you have given me your coat?

Why would I have needed your coat?

Am I missing something here?

I’m confused. 

[layzie]

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Should you have given me your coat?

Why would I have needed your coat?

Am I missing something here?

I’m confused. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia]

Do we have a view about whether it is correct to always avoid splitting infinitives? And what about the rule which says do not start sentences with conjunctions?

[Wodjathefirst]

On 8/2/2022 at 10:18 AM, Neil Crompton said:

Just saw this in the Fill the G thread. It’s a new one for me:

“I hate being out numbered and out noised at our home games”

I’m learning so much on this thread.

I was having a quiet chuckle when I was reading this post and then suddenly realised I was reacting to something that I had posted!

Happy to assist with your ‘learnings’.

Edited August 4 by Wodjathefirst
Typo!

[Winners at last]

If only there were a similar product for grammar !! 

 

[layzie]

35 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Do we have a view about whether it is correct to always avoid splitting infinitives? And what about the rule which says do not start sentences with conjunctions?

Demonstone:

"Because I have a real problem with that too, yes!" 

[WalkingCivilWar]

These grind my gears:

Dessert/desert
Councillor/counsellor

Principal/principle

These keep me up at night:

CHAMPING/chomping at the bit.
One FELL/foul swoop.
EXACT/extract revenge. 

These make me forget all that’s good in the world:

Lackadaisical pronounced LackSadaisical.

Often pronounced off-t’n (there’s a reason it’s called a silent T).

Succinct pronounced S’sinked 

Appreciate pronounced app-reese-iate

Penchant pronounced pen-chant. (Yes, it’s a French word, but so is genre and we don’t say Jen-reh, now do we?)

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogogoch

pronounced

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogo-gotch. (Have some respect for the Welsh!)

 

Edited August 4 by WalkingCivilWar

[Demonstone]

12 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Lackadaisical

How do you feel about people who think that "laconic" means the same thing?

[Mel Bourne]

14 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

The term 'woke' was appropriated by self appointed social justice movements largely after the political earthquake of 2016.

It was borrowed from a speech by Martin Luther King called 'Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution' that praised the advances of the civil rights revolution but cautioned vigilance against injustice wherever one may see it.

Sadly, depending on what section of the corporate media one consumes, one half of the culture war view the term as a predefined set of expressed opinions that makes one part of polite society and proves one's virtuousness. The other half of the culture war view it as a cover all snarl word to instantly shut down debate about anything they don't like or feel uncomfortable with. 

The same thing happened with the term 'politically correct'. Woke is just another terminology that has been bastardized to keep the eternal [censored] match going between boomers and millenials.

I’d agree with all of that except the last sentence. It’s not a Boomer Vs Millennial thing, it’s simply Ideology Vs Ideology. Plenty of Boomers hold the views of one side or the other. Perhaps it’s not quite as divided in the Millennial camp, but to suggest all of them have a shared set of beliefs and ethics is a stretch. 

Plus what about us Gen X-ers?!

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia]

43 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

These grind my gears:

Dessert/desert
Councillor/counsellor

Principal/principle

These keep me up at night:

CHAMPING/chomping at the bit.
One FELL/foul swoop.
EXACT/extract revenge. 

These make me forget all that’s good in the world:

Lackadaisical pronounced LackSadaisical.

Often pronounced off-t’n (there’s a reason it’s called a silent T).

Succinct pronounced S’sinked 

Appreciate pronounced app-reese-iate

Penchant pronounced pen-chant. (Yes, it’s a French word, but so is genre and we don’t say Jen-reh, now do we?)

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogogoch

pronounced

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogo-gotch. (Have some respect for the Welsh!)

 

Essedon and Wimbleton

[WalkingCivilWar]

1 minute ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Essedon and Wimbleton

Said by the fans of the team!

[sue]

On 8/3/2022 at 10:34 AM, WalkingCivilWar said:

Here’s one many on here will know, but just as many might not know:

Affect - verb

Effect - noun

Effect - also a verb

 

One of my pet hates is that about 30 years ago journalists who didn't know when to say effect or affect took to saying impacted in every case, thereby consigning the meaning of impact to the dustbin of dictionaries.

[faultydet]

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Said by the fans of the team!

I asked an Essedon supporting workmate if he thought we would "snag one" after the bombers mauled us in 2000.

His reply was "pends on how good we are"

I'm so happy he has had 22 years of misery since that day.

He played reserves footy for them as a teenager and STILL called them Essedon.

Schmuck.

 

 

 

[layzie]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

These grind my gears:

Dessert/desert
Councillor/counsellor

Principal/principle

These keep me up at night:

CHAMPING/chomping at the bit.
One FELL/foul swoop.
EXACT/extract revenge. 

These make me forget all that’s good in the world:

Lackadaisical pronounced LackSadaisical.

Often pronounced off-t’n (there’s a reason it’s called a silent T).

Succinct pronounced S’sinked 

Appreciate pronounced app-reese-iate

Penchant pronounced pen-chant. (Yes, it’s a French word, but so is genre and we don’t say Jen-reh, now do we?)

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogogoch

pronounced

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrnd robwllllantysiliogogo-gotch. (Have some respect for the Welsh!)

 

Yeah lacksadaisical gets me every single time. Commentators love it.

[Guest]

56 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

I’d agree with all of that except the last sentence. It’s not a Boomer Vs Millennial thing, it’s simply Ideology Vs Ideology. Plenty of Boomers hold the views of one side or the other. Perhaps it’s not quite as divided in the Millennial camp, but to suggest all of them have a shared set of beliefs and ethics is a stretch. 

Plus what about us Gen X-ers?!

 

Fair point. There are plenty of young fogeys getting around and aging hipsters.

[Winners at last]

Annie, how about "nothing happening in this nick of the woods"?

To digress, how about nouns used as verbs? e.g. "Abercromby Warbington-Smyth didn't medal in the 800 metres freestyle".

[Jontee]

4 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

Annie, how about "nothing happening in this nick of the woods"?

To digress, how about nouns used as verbs? e.g. "Abercromby Warbington-Smyth didn't medal in the 800 metres freestyle".

but did he meddle?

[La Dee-vina Comedia]

On the radio this morning I heard a replay of a journo saying "Tom Hawkins has run out of super-laxatives for his mate Joel Selwood".  I assume, and I hope, she meant to say "superlatives". 

Mind you, this effort from one of our Members of Parliament might be the gold medallist of incorrect word use.