Premiership Points

[Guest]

Can anybody tell me what is our record for Premiership points earned in a season? Even in our great times there were only 17 games so we must have a big chance to go better.

[daisycutter 29,756]

given the season length has changed over the decades, a better measure would be least number of losses,  or just a % figure of games won (e.g.. 16 out of 18 equates to 19.5 out of 22, 17 out of 18 equates to 20.8 out of 22)

[58er 6,610]

11 minutes ago, WesternDee said:

Can anybody tell me what is our record for Premiership points earned in a season? Even in our great times there were only 17 games so we must have a big chance to go better.

My understanding is 16 wins 6 losses in 2004 and no finals wins being beaten by Bombers in their last finals win in the elimination Final.
In our glory years 1956 I believe we won 16 and lost 2 in home and away round then won the 2 finals ( 2nd Semi and Grand Final) and the flag of course. 

Where  you get your 17 game information from is mystifying.You only need to consider years we have made the Top 4, 5, 6 and 8. A total of 18 games was the normal number except in years which were affected by the World Wars from 1914/18 and 1941/45 with not all Clubs participating in each season. 

The AFL season has  been a total of 20 and 22 games for the last 30/40 years and only 2020 was shortened to 17 Rounds as we all know due to Covid impact.

So the 16 record for home and way wins can be broke as can the 18 wins total for 1956 including Finals as our most winning season. 

We are  a great chance to break both IMO. 

If any D/Lander has any other figures to contradict this summary pleas feel get to offer your contribution as I am going on general knowledge rather than consulting record books. 


 

[58er 6,610]

16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

given the season length has changed over the decades, a better measure would be least number of losses,  or just a % figure of games won (e.g.. 16 out of 18 equates to 19.5 out of 22, 17 out of 18 equates to 20.8 out of 22)

I Disagree.
You can only go on total wins otherwise you may as well start splitting Each Premiership from 1900 to 1964 on its merits ie games win or lost etc with W snd L. Being The salient solo figure. 

Each season is different and a total of wins/ losses is always going to be crucial but that is the stories  that lay behind the records that books etc  can keep us informed about snd fascinate us fans. 

[deanox 10,006]

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/melbourne/season.html

 

This resource might help.

[daisycutter 29,756]

1 minute ago, 58er said:

I Disagree.
You can only go on total wins otherwise you may as well start splitting Each Premiership from 1900 to 1964 on its merits ie games win or lost etc with W snd L. Being The salient solo figure. 

Each season is different and a total of wins/ losses is always going to be crucial but that is the stories  that lay behind the records that books etc  can keep us informed about snd fascinate us fans. 

we can do it any way we want.....and the press certainly will if it creates a story

so pick your own poison -   wins   losses    %wins   or whatever, i really don't care that much

[xarronn 384]

20 minutes ago, 58er said:

My understanding is 16 wins 6 losses in 2004 and no finals wins being beaten by Bombers in their last finals win in the elimination Final.
In our glory years 1956 I believe we won 16 and lost 2 in home and away round then won the 2 finals ( 2nd Semi and Grand Final) and the flag of course. 

Where  you get your 17 game information from is mystifying.You only need to consider years we have made the Top 4, 5, 6 and 8. A total of 18 games was the normal number except in years which were affected by the World Wars from 1914/18 and 1941/45 with not all Clubs participating in each season. 

The AFL season has  been a total of 20 and 22 games for the last 30/40 years and only 2020 was shortened to 17 Rounds as we all know due to Covid impact.

So the 16 record for home and way wins can be broke as can the 18 wins total for 1956 including Finals as our most winning season. 

We are  a great chance to break both IMO. 

If any D/Lander has any other figures to contradict this summary pleas feel get to offer your contribution as I am going on general knowledge rather than consulting record books. 


 

 

Season extended to 20 rounds in 68 and 69 and then to 22 rounds from 1970.

Best year for the Dees was 1956 - 16 H + A wins and two finals = 18

1955 we won 15 H + A and 2 finals =17

1990 we won 16 H + A and 1 final = 17

So we have never won more than 16 games in the regular season, - this is surely a record we need / must break this year to give us a real chance for premiership.

 

 

[Little Goffy 14,658]

Courtesy of https://afltables.com/afl/teams/melbourne/season.html

Most games won in a season -

16 out of 22 total, in 1990

16 out of 18 total, in 1956

 

But the REAL record to chase this weekend is our best year in an odd-numbered season.

A win over the Hawks pushes us level with 1989 (14wins) and prior to that we go all the way to 1955 with 15 wins.

 

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46 minutes ago, 58er said:

My understanding is 16 wins 6 losses in 2004 and no finals wins being beaten by Bombers in their last finals win in the elimination Final.
In our glory years 1956 I believe we won 16 and lost 2 in home and away round then won the 2 finals ( 2nd Semi and Grand Final) and the flag of course. 

Where  you get your 17 game information from is mystifying.You only need to consider years we have made the Top 4, 5, 6 and 8. A total of 18 games was the normal number except in years which were affected by the World Wars from 1914/18 and 1941/45 with not all Clubs participating in each season. 

The AFL season has  been a total of 20 and 22 games for the last 30/40 years and only 2020 was shortened to 17 Rounds as we all know due to Covid impact.

So the 16 record for home and way wins can be broke as can the 18 wins total for 1956 including Finals as our most winning season. 

We are  a great chance to break both IMO. 

If any D/Lander has any other figures to contradict this summary pleas feel get to offer your contribution as I am going on general knowledge rather than consulting record books. 


 

I'm sorry it was a typo - I meant 18 games. So 16 wins or 64 points is our record for a season I guess.

[titan_uranus 25,046]

24 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Courtesy of https://afltables.com/afl/teams/melbourne/season.html

Most games won in a season -

16 out of 22 total, in 1990

16 out of 18 total, in 1956

 

But the REAL record to chase this weekend is our best year in an odd-numbered season.

A win over the Hawks pushes us level with 1989 (14wins) and prior to that we go all the way to 1955 with 15 wins.

 

Correct.

We've never won 17 games in a season before.

As I mentioned in the embarrassing records thread, Hawthorn won 17+ games in a season five times in six years (2011-2016).

[durango 2,023]

I really don't care how many wins we have in the season so long as we win the Grand Final in 2021 and the players can say the played in the 13th premiership team for the MFC. 

[tiers 2,849]

In our last premiership year 1964 we finished on top of the ladder after 18 games. Two more wins against the filth gave us a flag.

In one season under Neale we were on top of the ladder after 18 games but then fell in a heap. No joy.

My wish is that this year we are top of the ladder again after 18 games but that we do not fall in a heap. Still a chance for joy.

Go dees.