Great rainy day Saturday morning reading. Thanks to all contributors 

Just read in fin review that Fahour spent 2.5 million on employee gifts - Enjoying the London olympics

16 hours ago, deanox said:

 

This is almost exactly what I was saying above though.

External group isnt happy with the current board performance. Instead of a divisive, public board challenge, the groups talk it through, and move forward together. Collectively there is now an otherwise unknown view on the board, theoretically making it better and more diverse.

This risk is that its a token appointment, and the original board is just placating them, and gives them no real involvement or input.

If the external group spends 12-24 months on the board and either feels like nothing is improving, then it might run a full challenge. 

If the placating appointment is only given lip service and no real input but dont complain, the board will let then run their course, they obviously dont know what they are taking about. 

IMO another year like 2020 and the board should all stand down. 

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

IMO another year like 2019 and the board should all stand down. 

There we go. Fixed it.

Edited October 24, 20205 yr by A F

22 hours ago, old dee said:

We have not had a member contestant vote in 15 years. Now remind me how that 15 years has played out! Oh that's right we made a brief finals  appearance in one year and rest we have been irrelevant to the competition.

The last board challenge was Jimmy's takeover. Not one to recommend given the outcome, but no-one could have predicted the main guy was to be struck with a fatal illness within a year of taking over.

As for B Green he does have some business background but that's not much relevance to being football director. Most clubs have someone with recent on-field experience to enlighten the Board on footy matters. Leoncelli was football director for a while. Not sure when he finished or who replaced him.

19 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Would seem more useful than sitting on the Board. Time will tell, but at this stage i don’t see Brad as an executive  
 

But he is there so i do hope it works

 

See this is where you're showing you have no idea about what the Board does.  Except for an Executive Director the Board does not have executive roles.  If Green was working directly with the FD he would be closer to being an executive.

18 minutes ago, A F said:

There we go. Fixed it.

You were happy with this year? What should have been a finals year was trashed.

9 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

See this is where you're showing you have no idea about what the Board does.  Except for an Executive Director the Board does not have executive roles.  If Green was working directly with the FD he would be closer to being an executive.

Then what is he doing sitting on the Board?

Any expertise he has is communicating directly with the Football Department 

12 minutes ago, old dee said:

You were happy with this year? What should have been a finals year was trashed.

No, I wasn't happy, but there is grey, you know, OD. I wouldn't be getting the entire board to step down because we finished 9th. That's knee-jerk ridiculousness. 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Then what is he doing sitting on the Board?

Any expertise he has is communicating directly with the Football Department 

The Football Manager and the Coach will report periodically to the Board, he is Football Director is there to understand and interpret the message.  Modern football is very complex and it requires a deep understanding.

39 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

The Football Manager and the Coach will report periodically to the Board, he is Football Director is there to understand and interpret the message.  Modern football is very complex and it requires a deep understanding.

Yes i am well aware of this. 
i have dealt with large organisations to get things done quite often 

 

You'd think the President's position will be untenable if we fail to make finals and can't find a permanent home.

Promises made and promises not kept and all that.

8 minutes ago, raDeelaide said:

You'd think the President's position will be untenable if we fail to make finals and can't find a permanent home.

Promises made and promises not kept and all that.

Yep. Balls on the line. We need to get things done

Not just promise them

4 hours ago, A F said:

No, I wasn't happy, but there is grey, you know, OD. I wouldn't be getting the entire board to step down because we finished 9th. That's knee-jerk ridiculousness. 

Old Dee spends all her time complaining, you won't be able to find 1 positive post ever from her, even you have positive things to say now and then.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yep. Balls on the line. We need to get things done

Not just promise them

You would be changing the president ever year, making finals is one thing, the Homebase is very complicated, where is the space that's close to the MCG, that won't get complaints   by residents in that area, will it have to be at the docklands somewhere?, Or  could the Bentleigh club torn down and an oval put their.

3 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

You would be changing the president ever year, making finals is one thing, the Homebase is very complicated, where is the space that's close to the MCG, that won't get complaints   by residents in that area, will it have to be at the docklands somewhere?, Or  could the Bentleigh club torn down and an oval put their.

No I wouldn’t be changing Presidents every year. 
 

Can you please learn to punctuate a sentence before telling me what i think. 

5 hours ago, A F said:

No, I wasn't happy, but there is grey, you know, OD. I wouldn't be getting the entire board to step down because we finished 9th. That's knee-jerk ridiculousness. 

I said if they did the same next year.

10 minutes ago, old dee said:

I said if they did the same next year.

And I'm saying if we finished second last again then sure, otherwise IMV you don't have your whole board stand down over something like that.

3 minutes ago, A F said:

And I'm saying if we finished second last again then sure, otherwise IMV you don't have your whole board stand down over something like that.

That's why the dees never get anywhere because we accept mediocrity. 

14 minutes ago, old dee said:

That's why the dees never get anywhere because we accept mediocrity. 

So it's burn it down to the ground or accept mediocrity as the only two alternatives? Must be a pretty boring black and white world you live in, OD.

50 minutes ago, A F said:

So it's burn it down to the ground or accept mediocrity as the only two alternatives? Must be a pretty boring black and white world you live in, OD.

 they write books about MFC mediocrity. 

I think the idea of replacing an entire Board in one go is a terrible idea and entirely destabilising. 

That said, I think we could happily lose a few of them. With one exception, the Board is a bunch of same-age, same-gender old world types of overlapping, and in some cases, modest skills. It’s definitely not a new-world Board and I can’t imagine our Board meetings are particularly dynamic.

Personally I think it could use a modest shake-up. I’m not sure how I feel about Green’s appointment but just the fact that we’ll have someone <45yo is a win.

21 hours ago, deanox said:

They got $80mil+ worth of bonuses and people are worroed about $20k of watches?

Bringing her down for this is a political stunt. If it was really an issue, the obscene salaries and bonuses wouldn't occur in the first place.

Bur that being said, Eddie is part of those obscene dollars.

 

The most useless organization in Australia funded by tax payers is Aus Post. They make millions while I wait 9 weeks to get a parcel from QLD. Useless. 

7 minutes ago, Jaded said:

The most useless organization in Australia funded by tax payers is Aus Post. They make millions while I wait 9 weeks to get a parcel from QLD. Useless. 

Asolutely.

But I'd say don't hate the players, hate the game.

5 minutes ago, deanox said:

Asolutely.

But I'd say don't hate the players, hate the game.

I know. 
Need to draft this guy to run the place