After Sunday's game I wanted to bump the topic about The Roar's article bagging Jack V but since it's been closed I am here declaring its author, some nobody none of us had heard of previously by the name of Cameron Rose to be denoted "A Clown''.

This puts him in such miserable company as BT, Anthony Hudson, Mark Robinson and assorted other bozos who have a microphone or keyboard but bugger all insight.

Edited March 24, 20205 yr by pitmaster

  On 24/03/2020 at 21:40, pitmaster said:

After Sunday's game I wanted to bump the topic about The Roar's article bagging Jack V but since it's been closed I am here declaring its author, some nobody none of us had heard of previously by the name of Cameron Rose to be denoted "A Clown''.

This puts him in such miserable company as BT, Anthony Hudson, Mark Robinson and assorted other bozos who have a microphone or keyboard but bugger all insight.

A lot of MFC supporters have pseudo-bagged Viney here over the last 2 years.  Can count the posters on one hand that never sold J Viney stock.  I’m the thumb by the way.

 

 

 

pTGR

  On 24/03/2020 at 22:33, TGR said:

A lot of MFC supporters have pseudo-bagged Viney here over the last 2 years.  Can count the posters on one hand that never sold J Viney stock.  I’m the thumb by the way.

 

 

 

pTGR

I thought you were The Bird finger? You usually are.

 

 

mS

  On 24/03/2020 at 22:33, TGR said:

I’m the thumb by the way.

 

And I think we all know where that thumb's firmly inserted.

  On 24/03/2020 at 21:40, pitmaster said:

After Sunday's game I wanted to bump the topic about The Roar's article bagging Jack V but since it's been closed I am here declaring its author, some nobody none of us had heard of previously by the name of Cameron Rose to be denoted "A Clown''.

This puts him in such miserable company as BT, Anthony Hudson, Mark Robinson and assorted other bozos who have a microphone or keyboard but bugger all insight.

Well well well.  Someone, in the opinion business, gets it wrong.  Let's call him names, let's vent and let's not recognize that in footy we've all been horribly wrong at times.

He had an opinion.  He didn't hurt anyone but now we'll start vilifying him shall we??  

 

Edited March 25, 20205 yr by Grapeviney
Please keep it civil

  On 25/03/2020 at 00:33, Baghdad Bob said:

He had an opinion.  He didn't hurt anyone but now we'll start vilifying him shall we?? 

Yes................yes we shall.

  On 25/03/2020 at 00:33, Baghdad Bob said:

Well well well.  Someone, in the opinion business, gets it wrong.  Let's call him names, let's vent and let's not recognize that in footy we've all been horribly wrong at times.

He had an opinion.  He didn't hurt anyone but now we'll start vilifying him shall we??  

 

Settle down Cam

Didn’t know what he’d written so went to take a look:

“Jack Viney must have a question mark on his future in the modern game. He’s as one-dimensional a player as there is in the AFL, and there are others on the list that perform his main skill of extraction better. He’s been demoted from the captaincy. He’s also treacle-slow and can’t kick. Concerns”

Treacle-slow? Can’t kick, sure. But treacle-slow?

Something tells me ol Cam bases his opinions on what he hears rather than what he sees. Viney, sorry, “Vin”, is far from treacle-slow.

  On 25/03/2020 at 00:33, Baghdad Bob said:

Well well well.  Someone, in the opinion business, gets it wrong.  Let's call him names, let's vent and let's not recognize that in footy we've all been horribly wrong at times.

He had an opinion.  He didn't hurt anyone but now we'll start vilifying him shall we??  

 

Aaaah BB, that old line.

OK, Everyone’s entitled to an opinion. But not everyone’s entitled to claim some special authority for their opinion, and not all opinions are equal.

First, this article appears under a picture byline on a specialty sports publication or section, just like professional writers like Mike Sheahan and Jake Niall. Now theroar is free and the writer may go unpaid for all we know, but in its presentation this opinion lays claim to authority, not just an opinion like you find on here, so it is judged more harshly.

Second, its bold declarations (slow as treacle, cannot kick, one dimensional) are blunt, not supported by evidence and not qualified by descriptions of other attributes the player may have, such as in this case courage, determination, capacity to inspire team mates, and endurance, which you would expect to find in a considered piece.

Third, it’s ignorant. Some of the game’s finest midfielders have been comparatively slow yet succeeded due to other positive attributes such as ability to win a contest and release a team mate. And it’s inaccurate. Viney simply isn’t that slow. In full flight he is a steam train.

No, this isn’t just an opinion. It’s an amateurish grab for attention based on sweeping and unsupported statements. It’s the work of a try-hard. Let me also point out that his article appears with the word ‘Expert’ next to the writer’s name. Dear me.

No, no number of limp-wristed platitudes like “everyone’s entitled to an opinion” or “we all make mistakes” can make up for the fact that this bloke has tried to promote himself by making an inaccurate assault on someone else’s standing. Because it’s ignorant and wrong and ill-timed and ill-considered he warrants the clown stamp.

I hereby re-dub Cameron Rose a ‘Clown’. He no doubt will continue to call himself an “Expert’.

  On 25/03/2020 at 20:23, pitmaster said:

Aaaah BB, that old line.

OK, Everyone’s entitled to an opinion. But not everyone’s entitled to claim some special authority for their opinion, and not all opinions are equal.

First, this article appears under a picture byline on a specialty sports publication or section, just like professional writers like Mike Sheahan and Jake Niall. Now theroar is free and the writer may go unpaid for all we know, but in its presentation this opinion lays claim to authority, not just an opinion like you find on here, so it is judged more harshly.

Second, its bold declarations (slow as treacle, cannot kick, one dimensional) are blunt, not supported by evidence and not qualified by descriptions of other attributes the player may have, such as in this case courage, determination, capacity to inspire team mates, and endurance, which you would expect to find in a considered piece.

Third, it’s ignorant. Some of the game’s finest midfielders have been comparatively slow yet succeeded due to other positive attributes such as ability to win a contest and release a team mate. And it’s inaccurate. Viney simply isn’t that slow. In full flight he is a steam train.

No, this isn’t just an opinion. It’s an amateurish grab for attention based on sweeping and unsupported statements. It’s the work of a try-hard. Let me also point out that his article appears with the word ‘Expert’ next to the writer’s name. Dear me.

No, no number of limp-wristed platitudes like “everyone’s entitled to an opinion” or “we all make mistakes” can make up for the fact that this bloke has tried to promote himself by making an inaccurate assault on someone else’s standing. Because it’s ignorant and wrong and ill-timed and ill-considered he warrants the clown stamp.

I hereby re-dub Cameron Rose a ‘Clown’. He no doubt will continue to call himself an “Expert’.

good post pitmaster

may i suggest "expert clown"?