19 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think Frost and Oscar were (and are) both bad and limited footballers. Oscar is more talented and a nice kick who doesn't turn the ball over, but he still has no physical presence and doesn't kill the contest. Both the Balta and Higgins goals on the goal line came after Oscar failed to kill contested situations. He's indecisive, slow and hesitant to commit his body. Frost will have a few clangers but if he's put in the right positions - ie. playing from behind on a  lead up forward (ie. Jeremy Cameron, Tex Walker and others last year) he'll make them earn it.

It mostly comes down to how they want to use May and how the other defenders will work around him. 

I get the feeling it will be May at CHB and Oscar at full back to start with and we'll try to dictate with pressure up the ground to stop quick ball exposing Oscar and provide May a chance to intercept and control the half back line. Sounds good in theory but if May blows up chasing around a decoy and Oscar gets exploited deep then I can see the argument for May to stay deep and Frost to come in at CHB. 

 

yep, I agree with all of that.

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It mostly comes down to how they want to use May and how the other defenders will work around him. 

Agreed. 

I think Frosty might get squeezed out.

I love his attack on the ball.  He has pace and can compete in the air and on the ground.

He breaks lines and is unpredictable.  But as we all know that is also the risk.

But if we can keep our key defenders on the park, I don't see a spot for Frosty, although I prefer him to Oscar but Oscar is a better fit at FB. 

Was impressed with Petty.  He was so far off the pace in his senior match against StKilda last year that I was concerned for the effect that it could have on his confidence and development.  Yesterday against some very good players, he showed some very promising signs.  Not quite ready yet, but we may see hi during the year.

Keilty's atleticism (mainly his leap) is quite extraordinary.  If he gets a run next weekend, I'd like to see him have a run at the third tall position down back. 

As far as I can see, we don't have a lock for the Lever 3rd tall position.  I'd say at this stage it's out of Frost, Petty, Keilty, Hore and Smith (though the club seems to be wanting Smith to develop into a forward).

I thought Petty was very good.

Keilty was beating Nankervis - and sometimes easily. That is a very positive sign for Keilty. If that second ruck role is going to be a thing for us this year, Keilty just put himself in the conversation after yesterday.

3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I'm a big Preuss fan and have been keen to play two rucks (Gawn simply cannot do it all) however Keilty was a pleasant surprise in this position and will certainly create extra pressure for this position. if he can be a good forward option as well.

Yet to see enough from Preuss that suggests he will ever be much more than a lumbering man mountain. Does not seem to have a great understanding of the game, how to position himself or time leaping in ruck and most concerning seems to have a limited tank so can't get around the ground as is required in the modern game - in short, can't see him playing much time at all in the 1's

Agree that Petty seems more mature and is certainly a good prospect long term, Keilty also some encouraging signs, would have liked to see him more as a forward 50 option

My main concern from this game was the performance of T Mac he looked cooked from the first 5 minutes

6 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Keilty could be another good backup option for Weid.  Tim Smith was also pretty good in the game against the Pies and plays his role pretty well.

 

6 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

I’d like to see Petty play again this week. Looked  a lot more composed than Frost down back. With May coming in I’d give Frost a rest, O Mac is cleaner by foot coming out of defence.

Keilty didn’t look out of place yesterday either, I thought he competed well and was surprised by his vertical leap. 

Gawn comes back in this week. so Preuss has to play 2nd ruck forward, to see how that setup shapes... which leaves Keilty out.

May comes in, so I think OMc has first dibs over Frost... but I would be disappointed If I was Frost,  if he misses out to OMc.  ( I wouldn't mind Frost in defence, If/When  May & Lever are together in the side )... ( However I think Hore might get in, in that scenario ) ?

Keilty hopefully battling against Joel Smith for the 3rd tall forward role.