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Training - Thursday 28th February, 2019

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1 minute ago, tiers said:

Re: tennis ball and ball drop. I am gratified that at last this basic fundamental of good, consistent kicking is receiving attention. I highlighted Tracca's problem in another post in another thread recently.

One aspect that is not fully understood is the influence of the feel in the fingertips. It is uncanny how often good kicks are able to win the ball in awkward positions (the ball, not the player) and, because of the feel in the fingertips, instinctively adjust the ball in their hands to ensure a proper ball drop and a good kick to position.

Similar to tennis players who seem to instinctively and seamlessly adjust the raquet in their hands to hit the ball.

The best drill (in addition to the tennis ball) is a session of kick short kicks (10-15 m) at fast pace with a another person. This will force the hands to adjust quickly and surely. It's called muscle memory.

Long booming kicks at training is a waste of time to teach good kicking technique.

The way the ball is held is critical as is the height of the drop. Salem has the ideal hold and drop. Some players like TMac used to hold the ball in a way (for field kicking)  that it would sometimes float end on end the other way. Salem would never kick a ball like that because the starting vertical position virtually doesn't allow it.

Interestingly TMac has fixed that with his set kicking where the ball is held vertically (end pointing twds ground) and his hands remain very low minimising the height of the drop. He almost places the ball on his foot.

I recall too that both Neitz and Robertson were ordinary set kicks when they started but became very reliable in the latter half of their careers.

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    1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    We do forget that Goody was a bloody fantastic footballer!

    If he had played for a big Victorian club his name would be right up there with the Buckleys and Hirds of the games.

    I’m glad that he didn’t.  I would hate to have to call our coach an [censored]-hole.

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    9 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    It's definitely fixable. I went on a tour of the VIS facility in Footscray where they do biometric testing on kicking action. around a dozen probes are taped to the body and fed to a video/computer that shows exactly what is happening with the kicking motion, drop, body lean etc. Pinpoints exactly what should be addressed/fixed. This was back in 2011 so I imagine it has improved a lot since then

    I would like to see it.....haven't yet & plenty of evidence to suggest that its not as easy as you suggest, although I stand to be corrected. Players I can think off just off the cuff that have struggled for a while are Casboult, Mayne, M. Weller, L Dahlhaus & recently J Billings.

    Watch this space I guess & will observe the progress with CP with interest too......

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    4 hours ago, Dr.D said:

    I'm glad Binman isn't coach, he would've called training off coz it was too hot. Some of you guys were so precious in the JLT thread saying the richmond game should be rescheduled etc. Ridiculous! You asked for proof and whilst its not 40 (just a few degrees off) not only was training not earlier (in fact later) they weren't even doing a light session. 

    You are a hard man, Dr D.

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    1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

    The 1st Round of the VFL fixture is 7th April.  That's equivalent to Round 3 in the AFL.  Presumably KK needs a couple of weeks in the 2s, we're potentially looking at a recall, form permitting, of around Round 5, and even then he's not a walk-up start.

    If Lever is back around Round 8-10, then what Andy said isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

    What I read was round 1 of the AFL season. So he'll play in the practice matches in the VFL.

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    On 2/28/2019 at 5:52 PM, WERRIDEE said:

    What I read was round 1 of the AFL season. So he'll play in the practice matches in the VFL.

    I heard something along the lines of "Ready for Round 1, likely in the VFL". Round 1 of the AFL is earlier than Round 1 of the VFL, so if they are meaning Round 1 AFL, then there must be VFL practice games that they expect him to play in.

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    On 2/28/2019 at 5:04 PM, Laughing Goat said:

    I would like to see it.....haven't yet & plenty of evidence to suggest that its not as easy as you suggest, although I stand to be corrected. Players I can think off just off the cuff that have struggled for a while are Casboult, Mayne, M. Weller, L Dahlhaus & recently J Billings.

    Watch this space I guess & will observe the progress with CP with interest too......

    Where did I suggest it was easy? Just said it was fixable.

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