Do you think Utopia is an accurate depiction of what it was like to be Aboriginal ?

Have you read Kieran Finnane's review, among others ?

I'm not sure this movie should be Goodes guiding hand when it comes to history. I'm sure there are more factual documentaries he could have relied upon.

Goodes is an aboriginal man with his own life history, emotions and a right to express them how he chooses.

That so many choose to take deep offence at him expressing his feelings when seeing that movie, says for more about those choosing to take offence, than it does about Goodes.

Your projections are deceiving you.

Mother Teresa AND Carl Jung posting on the same thread . .better get an ABC news crew down here!

Time to shut this thread down before the racist bigots here ruin Demonland permanently.

Time to shut this thread down before the racist bigots here ruin Demonland permanently.

now, now, stuie, you are the living proof of the fallacy of that statement

True, apart perhaps from Meatloaf

R&B i have it on good authority that the AFL hired Meatloaf in order to erase this great legacy from an earlier GF (spot the late greats!).....

Edited June 3, 201510 yr by Rusty Nails

now, now, stuie, you are the living proof of the fallacy of that statement

Are you calling me a racist bigot?

Goodes is an aboriginal man with his own life history, emotions and a right to express them how he chooses.

That so many choose to take deep offence at him expressing his feelings when seeing that movie, says for more about those choosing to take offence, than it does about Goodes.

That's not what I asked you.

Time to shut this thread down before the racist bigots here ruin Demonland permanently.

People who hold themselves in unusually high esteem can go first . . . so after you stuie!

Are you calling me a racist bigot?

pause, reread, and think about it, stuie

pause, reread, and think about it, stuie

Maybe you should have paused and reread it before typing it.

That's not what I asked you.

You asked the wrong question, the quality of the film Utopia is irrelevant, the issue is Adam Goodes right to express views that many would prefer continued to go unspoken about our long and shameful treatment of indigenous Australians since the colonial invasion of their country.

I don't care about Utopia, haven't seen it. But then again neither have you. have you?

Mother Teresa AND Carl Jung posting on the same thread . .better get an ABC news crew down here!

“It is often tragic to see how blatantly a man bungles his own life and the lives of others yet remains totally incapable of seeing how much the whole tragedy originates in himself, and how he continually feeds it and keeps it going. Not consciously, of course—for consciously he is engaged in bewailing and cursing a faithless world that recedes further and further into the distance. Rather, it is an unconscious factor which spins the illusions that veil his world. And what is being spun is a cocoon, which in the end will completely envelop him.”

Carl Jung

Also for the apologist or so it seems!

Anyhow Stuie, As his biggest fan you would think Adam would list your name as exempt when he rants on. Sadly he doesn't! Guess in his eyes you are just the same as me!

Personally I find that quite offensive!!

Chrs

"Over 225 years, the Europeans, and now the governments that run our country, have raped, killed and stolen from my people for their own benefit. The total injustices that have been played out since colonisation are absolutely shameful, and I now find it hard to say I am proud to be Australian."

What did he say that is incorrect there? Sure it might make you uncomfortable to face up to reality and the fact there are multiple perceptions of all events and their consequences, and for some it may even challenge their worldview. But what is factually incorrect about that statement?

You asked the wrong question, the quality of the film Utopia is irrelevant, the issue is Adam Goodes right to express views that many would prefer continued to go unspoken about our long and shameful treatment of indigenous Australians since the colonial invasion of their country.

I don't care about Utopia, haven't seen it. But then again neither have you. have you?

No, I haven't seen it either and no-one was questioning his rights to express an opinion. It's just strange that he's referencing a film when discussing his lament and the film is purported to be very inaccurate and wildly exaggerated.

Edited June 3, 201510 yr by ProDee

You do realise he's probably been contemplating this issue most of his life?

You do realise he's probably been contemplating this issue most of his life?

Not probably.

No, I haven't seen it either and no-one was questioning his rights to express an opinion. It's just strange that he's referencing a film when discussing his lament and the film is purported to be very inaccurate and wildly exaggerated.

You mean to say you're giving an opinion without actually knowing the facts? Noooooooooooo that's so unlike you....

pause, reread, and think about it, stuie

Too subtle dc.

What did he say that is incorrect there? Sure it might make you uncomfortable to face up to reality and the fact there are multiple perceptions of all events and their consequences, and for some it may even challenge their worldview. But what is factually incorrect about that statement?

Work it out! You are a Doctor aren't you?

I always thought that half blooded Aborigines were not readily accepted by full-blood society, that they considered them inferior, wonder how THEY feel about Goodes representing them.

I don't get it Moonie!

“It is often tragic to see how blatantly a man bungles his own life and the lives of others yet remains totally incapable of seeing how much the whole tragedy originates in himself, and how he continually feeds it and keeps it going. Not consciously, of course—for consciously he is engaged in bewailing and cursing a faithless world that recedes further and further into the distance. Rather, it is an unconscious factor which spins the illusions that veil his world. And what is being spun is a cocoon, which in the end will completely envelop him.”

Carl Jung

Jung foresaw the fool Goodes! Genius!!

R&B i have it on good authority that the AFL hired Meatloaf in order to erase this great legacy from an earlier GF (spot the late greats!).....

I am not much of a fan of Angry Anderson, but he is a class way above the crud that Meatloaf served up ...

Maybe you should have paused and reread it before typing it.

straight through to the keeper.......oh well

Work it out! You are a Doctor aren't you?

Come on, you can do better than that.