The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[Gorgoroth 12,963]

57 minutes ago, McQueen said:

......and may extend again.

Presumably from his RS interviews, the two are also very good mates.

OMG!!! He is going to sign for Carlton!!!

[daisycutter 29,616]

5 hours ago, jnrmac said:

ANyone else notice Jesse wasn't smiling in the team photo?

 

OMG......panic stations....

 

(and Watts was smiling his head off....)

team balance jnr, just team balance

[Moonshadow 17,676]

9 hours ago, daisycutter said:

team balance jnr, just team balance

Balance of uppers and downers might need some adjustment dc 

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

On 4/2/2016 at 10:36 PM, Munga said:

we really need McCarthy to get to the Dockers on a big contract at the end of this year. 

I back the club to successfully counter any other Vic clubs offer to Jesse. The WA factor is our achilles. If Dockers get McCarthy that threat reduces somewhat, although not entirely.

Spot on. Would be a great day for us, as it is hard to see Freo being able to service two huge contracts like that, and to put too many eggs in the key forward basket.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

On 04/02/2016 at 4:58 AM, DemonAndrew said:

cripps news is important as he's another wa boy who is staying in victoria.

Was Visy involved though? Perhaps Judd handed over his brown paper bag. We don't seem to have the 'advantages' of a lot of other clubs.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

16 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

Spot on. Would be a great day for us, as it is hard to see Freo being able to service two huge contracts like that, and to put too many eggs in the key forward basket.

I don't think McCarthy would get a huge contract, and has probably already been told he'll be second fiddle to Hogan, who they're undoubtedly desperate to sign. That would be enough to get McCarthy.

FWIW I think Freo's about to slide. Weagles have gone past them and are recruiting better. Freo are not a destination club, despite their relative success. I think Hogan will stay and put MFC back firmly in the centre of the map.

[Yossarian 1,820]

2 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I don't think McCarthy would get a huge contract, and has probably already been told he'll be second fiddle to Hogan, who they're undoubtedly desperate to sign. That would be enough to get McCarthy.

FWIW I think Freo's about to slide. Weagles have gone past them and are recruiting better. Freo are not a destination club, despite their relative success. I think Hogan will stay and put MFC back firmly in the centre of the map.

With Fyfe and Hogan in the same team, they wouldn't spend much time out of the finals.

Don't expect Hogan to go though.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

3 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I don't think McCarthy would get a huge contract, and has probably already been told he'll be second fiddle to Hogan, who they're undoubtedly desperate to sign. That would be enough to get McCarthy.

I doubt they're telling McCarthy he'll be second fiddle to Hogan, a player who still has two seasons to run on his contract. If he wanted to play second fiddle to Hogan that badly, he'd come to the Dees. The reason he wants to go to Fremantle it to go home and to play at the club he grew up supporting. I don't think Hogan has or will have anything to do with his decision.

That would be like us finding out that we'd recruited Jeff Garlett with the promise that he'd be playing alongside Dion Prestia in 2017.

[Middymalt 244]

10 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I don't think McCarthy would get a huge contract, and has probably already been told he'll be second fiddle to Hogan, who they're undoubtedly desperate to sign. That would be enough to get McCarthy.

FWIW I think Freo's about to slide. Weagles have gone past them and are recruiting better. Freo are not a destination club, despite their relative success. I think Hogan will stay and put MFC back firmly in the centre of the map.

He kicked 40 goals in his second season he can write he's own cheque, personally I think the AFL should look into some of Fremantles dealings there morals are extremely low.

[dee-luded 2,959]

On 4/2/2016 at 9:06 AM, jnrmac said:

ANyone else notice Jesse wasn't smiling in the team photo?

 

OMG......panic stations....

 

(and Watts was smiling his head off....)

I think your referring to the talk of $cully not smiling in his initial club photo at the draft,  & after jumper presentation...  $cully didn't smile,,,,,,  & as it happens $cully indeed did leave for Foreign X-change pastures...

 

.... so yes,  the irony of him not smiling immediately after getting drafted & presented with the Dees jumper was an indication of his mood,  & future thoughts.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

I will say this much, if Freo lure Jesse home, my days of watching AFL will end at the same time.
 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

18 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

I will say this much, if Freo lure Jesse home, my days of watching AFL will end at the same time.
 

Please.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

6 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Please.

What have i ever done to you to warrant such a comment, or did you think you were being funny?

The reason i would abandon the team i love and the only game i watch is because there is no point in devoting time and money on something that will never improve because it is programmed to fail.

I will stay on this forum tho, just to [censored] you.

Edited February 7, 2016 by AzzKikA

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 hour ago, AzzKikA said:

What have i ever done to you to warrant such a comment, or did you think you were being funny?

The reason i would abandon the team i love and the only game i watch is because there is no point in devoting time and money on something that will never improve because it is programmed to fail.

I will stay on this forum tho, just to [censored] you.

I wasn't saying "please leave".

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

1 hour ago, AzzKikA said:

I will say this much, if Freo lure Jesse home, my days of watching AFL will end at the same time.
 

I feel the same but I help myself sleep at night with this thought: If he goes, we should be extremely well compensated. We got 2 first rounders for Scully FFS. You never know, Hogan's back could plague his career and we could end up with another Petracca/Brayshaw combo as a result of a trade. That would not be the end of the world. Although Hogan is worth more and and off field than both those players combined. Throw in another Oliver to make it square! I do think he will stay though.

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

1 hour ago, AzzKikA said:

What have i ever done to you to warrant such a comment, or did you think you were being funny?

The reason i would abandon the team i love and the only game i watch is because there is no point in devoting time and money on something that will never improve because it is programmed to fail.

I will stay on this forum tho, just to [censored] you.

Mate Hogan leaving wont be the end of this footy club. Hawthorn and Geelong have proved this that you can still have success without their number 1 star player.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

13 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I wasn't saying "please leave".

My mistake.

 

12 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

I feel the same but I help myself sleep at night with this thought: If he goes, we should be extremely well compensated. We got 2 first rounders for Scully FFS. You never know, Hogan's back could plague his career and we could end up with another Petracca/Brayshaw combo as a result of a trade. That would not be the end of the world. Although Hogan is worth more and and off field than both those players combined. Throw in another Oliver to make it square! I do think he will stay though.

 

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate Hogan leaving wont be the end of this footy club. Hawthorn and Geelong have proved this that you can still have success without their number 1 star player.

It's not the fact of him leaving as a player, it's the fact of us getting walked all over, but him leaving will be yet another set back.

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

If Hogan left (personally think he will leave eventually) i expect the club to make an all mighty mother of all trade deals.

Edited February 7, 2016 by dazzledavey36

[AzzKikA 2,371]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If Hogan left (personally think he will leave eventually) i expect the club to make an all mighty mother of all trade deals.

You would think so, but look at McCarthy, didn't get his way and is now on indefinite leave. Who knows what deal they will make at the end of the year.  While Cam is nowhere near Hulk's in talent (IMO) the precedent has been set, if you don't get your way, throw a fit and ask for leave until you get your way.

I do not know Jesse personally, so i can not be certain if he will leave or not, or even if he is the type to screw us over like that.

Would be nice to know from people that grew up with Hulk if he always looked so grumpy LoL.

[Gator 17,379]

Hogan has the chance to be the difference.  He knows it, the players know it and the coaches know it.  I suspect he's the type of character to see what this evolving group can deliver.  Will he take ownership and responsibility for what he can contribute ?  Champions usually want to put the team on their back and show the way. 

If Hogan goes post a premiership so be it, but for him to leave before the club has made significant inroads it would be a disaster, because he's the type of player that will help make us a destination club.  But I suspect he'll stay.

And if he ever does leave I think he'll remain in Melbourne, which is why I'm confident he won't. 

 

[nutbean 8,838]

57 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

  While Cam is nowhere near Hulk's in talent (IMO) the precedent has been set, if you don't get your way, throw a fit and ask for leave until you get your way.

 

So when GWS reported that they were aware and working with McCarthy's issues during the last year that didn't really cut any sway with you ? As far as you are concerned he has just thrown a fit because he didn't get his own way ?

[Gator 17,379]

2 minutes ago, nutbean said:

So when GWS reported that they were aware and working with McCarthy's issues during the last year that didn't really cut any sway with you ? As far as you are concerned he has just thrown a fit because he didn't get his own way ?

Where has it been reported that GWS knew he had serious "issues" (other than wanting to be traded back home) during or before last year's trade period ?

[AzzKikA 2,371]

12 minutes ago, nutbean said:

So when GWS reported that they were aware and working with McCarthy's issues during the last year that didn't really cut any sway with you ? As far as you are concerned he has just thrown a fit because he didn't get his own way ?

Do you really think they would tell the whole footy world they had no idea?

[nutbean 8,838]

21 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Where has it been reported that GWS knew he had serious "issues" (other than wanting to be traded back home) during or before last year's trade period ?

One of the papers suggested that there were issues mid year and were working with him.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

15 minutes ago, nutbean said:

One of the papers suggested that there were issues mid year and were working with him.

So you just remember reading it somewhere at some stage through the year?  From whom, was it GWS saying it or a jerno assuming it Robbo style and after the fact?

Anyway, my fears still stand, the players have all the power.

Edited February 8, 2016 by AzzKikA