You no doubt have the data to back this up?

He is wrong often. I would venture to say that so am I and so are you. If someone is wrong I support constructive argument, but not name calling.

whatever. I have always seen through Satyr's facade

But we all sit in different seats

exactly. To pluck a a name at random, I'll raise you Colin Sylvia. So he was better than most a junior. This prompted us to use pick 3 on him. He then spent the better part of a decade cashing checks and not lifting the weight that was asked of him. Are we supposed to have some sort of sympathy for this apathy? If I had been blessed by some force almighty to make several hundred K to play for the demons you best believe I would be glued to every match that is played just trying to get any sort of edge I could possibly find to make myself a better player. Best gig on the planet bar none. Makes me sick the blase attitude some supporters have to our players' professionalism

Curry,

I can understand if a player wants to switch off from the game but Roos has made a direction to the team that includes an important lesson ,or many, gained cheaply.

And then there are the ones that have to nurse bad knees for the rest of their lives and have mental issues resulting from concussions and head knocks.

It is actually embarrassing the pitiful amount of money these guys are paid when compared to other mainstream sports people. Baseball players for example. What do they do? Throw a ball, catch a ball, hit a ball? They earn millions for being fat roid takers

And I have a bad back and my eyes are stuffed because I sit in front of a computer all day. My career has given me 'injuries' too - what's your point?

Still at school are we? Great input to the topic

That was my shorthand response to your exposition about how hard the players' lives are.

You've said the players work 8am-5pm most days, with a day off. Let's take the week you set out on page 2 above as an example. You cannot possibly tell me that 'club recovery' on Sunday is more than a couple of hours at most. I often work a couple of hours on a weekend too and a hell of a lot of people work the whole thing. Meetings/training/weights - yes, heavy physical activity but no worse than a lot of blokes routinely put in at sites all over the place during the week. Their 'hours worked' number would be nowhere near your suggested 6 day a week, 9 hour a day job.

Putting all of that aside in any case, your input into the original topic was to say that the players couldn't be expected to spend a couple of hours on a weekend watching a live game because their lives are so chock a block with their work already (substituting, obviously, 'work' for a 'career as an athlete'). Here's an idea - how about the club cancels just one of those afternoons of weights or meetings or hanging out at primary schools or, look, whatever they feel like really, and send everyone to a game of footy to watch how a decent team does it?

The only reason I could see for a player not watching other games of footy is that he wants all his football instruction to come from his coach. That way he can do exactly what his coach wants him to do without any interference from his own ideas or other games.

But other than that, if you're not watching the best then how can you know how to be the best?

I think some players just aren't football fans. A lot of them don't even support 1 side, I used to think this was uncommon, but after hearing Judd and Wingard mention they watch very little football - away from the game - then I think it might be common. I know a lot of young kids in TAC cup don't watch football.

Even at my local football club, I could probably count only a handful of guys who are fanatical about football, the rest would just watch football if they had ppl over.

I agree with Roos, so much can be gleaned from watching the games. Just the way players move, they way they spread, position themselves, structure, set plays. Football coaches are probably less understanding about it all, because to be a coach you generally have to live and breathe football.

Chad wingard does not kno.w any player outside port

And I have a bad back and my eyes are stuffed because I sit in front of a computer all day. My career has given me 'injuries' too - what's your point?

thats your fault for not following office OH&S protocol and doing your stretches every 15 minutes, or having your screen on the wrong angle and not having a comfortable chair. Your injuries have come from neglect and being lazy. All on you

thats your fault for not following office OH&S protocol and doing your stretches every 15 minutes, or having your screen on the wrong angle and not having a comfortable chair. Your injuries have come from neglect and being lazy. All on you

Brilliant. Thanks for that. Do you do workstation assessments for a living?

thats your fault for not following office OH&S protocol and doing your stretches every 15 minutes, or having your screen on the wrong angle and not having a comfortable chair. Your injuries have come from neglect and being lazy. All on you

BANG!!

I think some players just aren't football fans. A lot of them don't even support 1 side, I used to think this was uncommon, but after hearing Judd and Wingard mention they watch very little football - away from the game - then I think it might be common. I know a lot of young kids in TAC cup don't watch football.

Even at my local football club, I could probably count only a handful of guys who are fanatical about football, the rest would just watch football if they had ppl over.

I agree with Roos, so much can be gleaned from watching the games. Just the way players move, they way they spread, position themselves, structure, set plays. Football coaches are probably less understanding about it all, because to be a coach you generally have to live and breathe football.

I meant "reason" as in "legitimate reason." But all this "players should watch more footy" that we're all spouting might actually be wrong. Surely it would be easy to do a player survey of how many games per week each player watches. Correlating "most improved" players with "minutes of footy watched" would be an interesting statistic.