I've only read part of this thread because my stomach can only stand so much.

Jack Grimes is one of the gutsiest and committed players to play with the Demons for years. He will come back and be a major part in the Demons future. Some of the posts are disgraceful and ignorant and completely contrary to the way the club rates Grimes. And I have connections within the club, unlike so many flogs posting in this thread.

I hope you are right, Jack is one of the best captains a club could ever wish for. I hope he 100% proves his doubters wrong, kisses that premiership cup in a red & blue jumper.

Is it reasonable to ask a vegetarian to consume cast quantities of animal souls for the sake of the team. I'm big on symbolism and I think Grimes eating a batch of quail during training and at half time would send a clear message to his team mates - it could be our line in the sand moment!

Depends on the size of the cast

I've only read part of this thread because my stomach can only stand so much.

Jack Grimes is one of the gutsiest and committed players to play with the Demons for years. He will come back and be a major part in the Demons future. Some of the posts are disgraceful and ignorant and completely contrary to the way the club rates Grimes. And I have connections within the club, unlike so many flogs posting in this thread.

Strange then that he was at Casey last weekend!

Grimes to me is made to be a run with midfielder similair to vineys role on Saturday. Was a midfielder as a junior, tough as teak good tackler and good overhead and willing to sacrifice his game.

Dunn was in a similair position and think roos will be supporting and encouraging him. But to me he needs the change in role.

Yes when he was drafted Emma Quayle predicted he would be a reliable midfielder for the next 10 years. Has he ever played for us in the middle for an extended run of games?

I hope you are right, Jack is one of the best captains a club could ever wish for. I hope he 100% proves his doubters wrong, kisses that premiership cup in a red & blue jumper.

Anyone that thinks Grimes is a great captain is still living iin Schwabovia.

Anyone that thinks Grimes is a great captain is still living iin Schwabovia.

I believe that that nation's flag is a picture of a giant whiteboard with a few doodles on it.

To be fair, I think Grimes had some attributes of a good captain. When he was appointed captain though, the club as Mick Malthouse and Neeld, in a rare moment of lucidity, said was about everything but football. Sure, he was a great role model on the track and, from what I can tell, wasn't a party animal like the Cols and Beamers of this world. Plus he was fairly well spoken though I used to hate it when they made him front up to another presser to profusely apologize for yet another shizen performance.

Sad thing is if you are captain, you need to deliver on the field and Jack hasn't done that consistently enough. It has also been said here ad nauseum but his decision making didn't help matters. If Jimmy Toumpas arses up, then the players will drop their heads. If your captain turns the ball over like that, which Jack did too often sadly, then multiply the sense of accompanying demoralization by at least 3.

Edited April 7, 201510 yr by Colin B. Flaubert

I believe that that nation's flag is a picture of a giant whiteboard with a few doodles on it.

To be fair, I think Grimes had some attributes of a good captain. When he was appointed captain though, the club as Mick Malthouse and Neeld, in a rare moment of lucidity, said was about everything but football. Sure, he was a great role model on the track and, from what I can tell, wasn't a party animal like the Cols and Beamers of this world. Plus he was fairly well spoken though I used to hate it when they made him front up to another presser to profusely apologize for yet another shizen performance.

Sad thing is if you are captain, you need to deliver on the field and Jack hasn't done that consistently enough. It has also been said here ad nauseum but his decision making didn't help matters. If Jimmy Toumpas arses up, then the players will drop their heads. If your captain turns the ball over like that, which Jack did too often sadly, then multiply the sense of accompanying demoralization by at least 3.

He tried but he failed. Big issue now is to get his game back in order. A telling fact is that he was not missed last weekend. He hasn't progressed in the past 3 seasons. Neville Jetta is now doing his onfield role but a whole lot better.

Edited April 7, 201510 yr by america de cali

He tried but he failed. Big issue now is to get his game back in order. A telling fact is that he was not missed last weekend. He hasn't progressed in the past 3 seasons. Neville Jetta is now doing his onfield role but a whole lot better.

I know but I think there should be some acknowledgement that he did and does have some good qualities to be captain. I agree that the overall experiment was a failure. If both Trenners and Grimes were handled properly and given the captaincy after both had played at least 100 games, I don't think this conversation would be being had.

But yes, I agree with most of what you have said.

Nathan Jones has the correct attributes. Now when you see that photo of all the club captains together, ours doesn't look out of place.

Have heard from a close source to jack grimes that he and roos don't see eye to eye and wouldn't be suprised if he is moved on at seasons end

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What could we get for grimes? An early 2nd rounder, or a young player from a developing club?

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What could we get for grimes? An early 2nd rounder, or a young player from a developing club?

3rd rounder at best unless he shows a lot more form for the rest of the year. He's at Casey for a reason and any team would see his tapes and work it out. You can get a young player from any club for him, but it might not be a good one.

It's a long season. Let's not worry about trading him due to a rumour.

Roos stuck loyal through some terrible games from Grimes last year. No coaching manual dictates your half back turn it over by foot, dish off hospital passes and not win nearly enough intercept possessions. That said a more free flowing team might suit Grimes better than a regimented defensive team with controlled ball movement.

I'm glad he found lots of it at Casey today. 30 chances to practice using it well under game pressure. Which is 2 or 3 weeks worth at AFL level. Probably plenty of chances for intercept marks, spoiling opponents etc. If Howe's still sore he'd be a chance to come back in, although for his sake I think a longer spell at Casey against some more competitive VFL teams would be better for him.

Needs a good game for casey and should replace an underdone Howe.

Have heard from a close source to jack grimes that he and roos don't see eye to eye and wouldn't be suprised if he is moved on at seasons end

What, Grimes thinks he can kick and Roos doesn't?