Training - Monday 15th December, 2014

[jnrmac 20,185]

Is it just me or does anyone think that in 10 months time, Trengove either retires or requests a trade? The poor bugger needs a change of scenary I reckon.

Its just you.

[old dee 23,872]

Its just you.

We are not in agreement on this one jnr BBP is IMO close to the money.

[jnrmac 20,185]

Do you think it's possible that an interrupted/completely absent pre-season may actually hamper performance during the season? Could that be way the excuse is always whipped out - because it may actually be true?

Yeah, Dom Tyson had a shocking season in 2014....

[jnrmac 20,185]

We are not in agreement on this one jnr BBP is IMO close to the money.

We'll know soon enough I guess. I hope he stays and I hope he can get back on to the park. I like Jack - I think he's a smart footballer that unfortunately is perhaps guilty of trying to too hard. Perhaps he pushed to far when he was Captain because of the 'burden' instead of resting. perhaps he was mis-diagnosed. Who knows?

I do think he is mentallly tough though and if his body can get right his mind won't let him down (unlike another famous recruit...)

[old dee 23,872]

We'll know soon enough I guess. I hope he stays and I hope he can get back on to the park. I like Jack - I think he's a smart footballer that unfortunately is perhaps guilty of trying to too hard. Perhaps he pushed to far when he was Captain because of the 'burden' instead of resting. perhaps he was mis-diagnosed. Who knows?

I do think he is mentallly tough though and if his body can get right his mind won't let him down (unlike another famous recruit...)

I don't disagree with any of that j.

I serious doubts that his foot will be good enough to withstand the rigours of AFL football.

I have him in the "Doubtful starters for 2016 group"

[Nasher 33,617]

Yeah, Dom Tyson had a shocking season in 2014....

"Could be true" isn't the same as "always true".

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

Its just you.

I think the potential trade to Richmond was the last straw for Trengove.

If he can get over his injury, I feel he needs a change of scenary, a fresh start to realise his talents and use his strong character to advantage.

I can forsee a good will trade happening next year much like the Garlett trade where we exchanged picks with Carlton in the 50's and 60's.

I personally hope he stays if his injury comes good.

[bing181 9,328]

Yeah, Dom Tyson had a shocking season in 2014....

Imagine what it could have been with a full pre-season.

(The only way to use Tyson or any player as evidence in this, would be to compare performance with and without a pre-season. In Tyson's case, we don't have the former.)

Edited December 17, 2014 by bing181

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Do you think it's possible that an interrupted/completely absent pre-season may actually hamper performance during the season? Could that be way the excuse is always whipped out - because it may actually be true?

there might be a grain of truth to it.. but not if you are talking about a bloke missing a few weeks in December FFS

the ever-increasing focus on sports science annoys the S out of me. If you are declared fit and selected in the side there should be no excuses, certainly not missing a few training sessions 6 months earlier

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

"Could be true" isn't the same as "always true".

and you could always argue that Tyson would have been even better with a proper preseason.. nobody can be definitive either way

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

I think the potential trade to Richmond was the last straw for Trengove.

If he can get over his injury, I feel he needs a change of scenary, a fresh start to realise his talents and use his strong character to advantage.

I can forsee a good will trade happening next year much like the Garlett trade where we exchanged picks with Carlton in the 50's and 60's.

I personally hope he stays if his injury comes good.

No it wasn't, it was the player given the opportunity to explore his options, like Howie and GWS, Howie has certainly moved on from that

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I think the potential trade to Richmond was the last straw for Trengove.

If he can get over his injury, I feel he needs a change of scenary, a fresh start to realise his talents and use his strong character to advantage.

I can forsee a good will trade happening next year much like the Garlett trade where we exchanged picks with Carlton in the 50's and 60's.

I personally hope he stays if his injury comes good.

No it wasn't, it was the player given the opportunity to explore his options, like Howie and GWS, Howie has certainly moved on from that

It had nothing to do with 'giving him an opportunity' it was about netting us a marquee player and realising you need to give up something of value to make that happen. Whether JT understands that's it's just business or he he feels betrayed remains to be seen. He probably does (and should) feel that he owes us something regardless

[Machsy 2,858]

I think the potential trade to Richmond was the last straw for Trengove.

If he can get over his injury, I feel he needs a change of scenary, a fresh start to realise his talents and use his strong character to advantage.

I can forsee a good will trade happening next year much like the Garlett trade where we exchanged picks with Carlton in the 50's and 60's.

I personally hope he stays if his injury comes good.

Idle speculation by an idle mind...