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  On 08/11/2014 at 22:09, Redleg said:

It is interesting that posters are saying they have contacts who are telling them MCartin and Lever for 3.

One or both of these groups will be wrong. Is it possible the club is sending out some contradictory signals? If so I wouldn't know why.

Its all a game.
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      On 08/11/2014 at 22:09, Redleg said:

    It is interesting that posters are saying they have contacts who are telling them MCartin and Lever for 3.

    One or both of these groups will be wrong. Is it possible the club is sending out some contradictory signals? If so I wouldn't know why.

    I'd say it's more likely that people are claiming to know things they don't.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 22:10, UTAH said:

    Who did you have picked for us back in 2003 if not McLean and Sylvia?

    I was comparing Brayshaw to Mclean, not commenting on Mclean's draft year of which was all-round a shocker and not a good example to use. Having said that, I would have taken them both and compared to what else was available at the top of the draft that year there production has been pretty decent.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 22:30, Machsy said:

    I'd say it's more likely that people are claiming to know things they don't.

    I'd say it's because the Dees are attempting to get a certain someone to drop into there lap.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 22:41, Roosy said:

    I was comparing Brayshaw to Mclean, not commenting on Mclean's draft year of which was all-round a shocker and not a good example to use. Having said that, I would have taken them both and compared to what else was available at the top of the draft that year there production has been pretty decent.

    Ok. Which players would you have drafted from 2004 to 2010 to produce us a premiership challenging team? Considering which picks we had at that time.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:05, UTAH said:

    Ok. Which players would you have drafted from 2004 to 2010 to produce us a premiership challenging team? Considering which picks we had at that time.

    That's a pretty redundant question given the benefit of hindsight.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:05, UTAH said:

    Ok. Which players would you have drafted from 2004 to 2010 to produce us a premiership challenging team? Considering which picks we had at that time.

    Your not Paul Gardner by any chance are you?

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:09, Deemotivated said:

    That's a pretty redundant question given the benefit of hindsight.

    Yes. And even if we had of picked the other stars we overlooked, our player development was shite!

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      On 08/11/2014 at 22:44, Roosy said:

    I'd say it's because the Dees are attempting to get a certain someone to drop into there lap.

    To me that doesn't make sense, if the Saints had pick 1 and say 4 or 5 it would. They could take Pectracca and hope Paddy is still there for their second pick. We would then talk up Paddy. The Saints decision shouldn't be affected in any way by us.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:09, Deemotivated said:

    That's a pretty redundant question given the benefit of hindsight.

    Not if he is honest.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:17, Roosy said:

    Your not Paul Gardner by any chance are you?

    No. I'm not.

    I'm interested to know who you would have picked up.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:29, UTAH said:

    No. I'm not.

    I'm interested to know who you would have picked up.

    OK - I'll get back to you with a list when I get a chance to write something up....On the condition that you can guarantee me that you are being honest by saying you are genuinely interested in who I would have picked. If you are more interested in trying to find faults in my previous statement about me being able to put together a better list then you are wasting my time and you can go off and try and be right with someone else. If you want me to be honest with you then you have to be honest with me also. So which is it?

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:25, Al said:

    To me that doesn't make sense, if the Saints had pick 1 and say 4 or 5 it would. They could take Pectracca and hope Paddy is still there for their second pick. We would then talk up Paddy. The Saints decision shouldn't be affected in any way by us.

    It does make sense because a lot of team likes to weigh up their selections by garnering other teams interest in players. If the Saints are tossing up between Petracca & McCartin and then we hype McCartin up a bit and make it out that they're missing out on a star then that might sway them to pick him. Happens all the time.

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      On 09/11/2014 at 00:00, Roosy said:

    It does make sense because a lot of team likes to weigh up their selections by garnering other teams interest in players. If the Saints are tossing up between Petracca & McCartin and then we hype McCartin up a bit and make it out that they're missing out on a star then that might sway them to pick him. Happens all the time.

    Agreed. Every club is weighing up who to pick hoping they make the right decisions, every player is a potential risk, that they will continue to develop, dont have injuries or gain injuries that screws their careers, also there is going to be a lot of heated arguments over which positions need to be covered first. St Kilda will have supporters for taking the best mid or taking the best forward, up until a name is called out they like us will are not going to stop having those discussions. Also i wonder if some list managers are influenced on which players they cut from their list before the draft based on who they think maybe available to them.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 08:25, Demoneyes said:

    Meltdown come on down! Played golf today with my mate and he has CATEGORICALLY said we will be taking LEVER (i did it in capitals for you who can't read so well!). So there you go!

    Good god, stop the presses! You played golf with your mate?! Unbelievable.
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      On 09/11/2014 at 00:00, Roosy said:

    It does make sense because a lot of team likes to weigh up their selections by garnering other teams interest in players. If the Saints are tossing up between Petracca & McCartin and then we hype McCartin up a bit and make it out that they're missing out on a star then that might sway them to pick him. Happens all the time.

      On 09/11/2014 at 00:00, Roosy said:

    It does make sense because a lot of team likes to weigh up their selections by garnering other teams interest in players. If the Saints are tossing up between Petracca & McCartin and then we hype McCartin up a bit and make it out that they're missing out on a star then that might sway them to pick him. Happens all the time.

    Saints have pick 1, they are in a complete rebuild mode. They have to decide between two highly talented kids who just happen to play different positions. They are in need of both. As I mentioned before this in not a case of having picks 1 and 4 and hoping one of the players slides. If their decision is based on anything other than the research that their football department has done they should close their doors for good. Clubs have footy departments for a reason, all top kids have been tracked for years but all that goes out the window for a game of cat and mouse?

    Step 1 - indentify your needs.

    Step 2 - pick who best fills that need.

    Step 3 - don't listen to the crap being peddled by other clubs.

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:27, UTAH said:

    Not if he is honest.

    True. It'd be hard not to look at who has done what when making the selections I guess.

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    A future forward line of

    Kent, McCartin, Howe

    JKH, Hogan, Garlett

    Doesn't sound too bad.

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      On 09/11/2014 at 03:54, InVINCEable said:

    A future forward line of

    Kent, McCartin, Howe

    JKH, Hogan, Garlett

    Doesn't sound too bad.

    And in the short term with Dawes still in mix means that we become extremely hard to match up on !

    Consider this for next year

    Howe, Dawes, Watts

    Hogan, Mc Cartin, Garlett

    if I was an opposition coach, even though two haven't played yet, if they have even a smidgeon of impact Sheeit a few would take notice. If they hit their straps early,? Gees that's a Forward line with more than a touch of Potency!!

    Bring it on!!

    I feel like the Coyote chasing the Road Runner!....

    I'm salivating!!

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      On 09/11/2014 at 06:42, picket fence said:

    And in the short term with Dawes still in mix means that we become extremely hard to match up on !

    Consider this for next year

    Howe, Dawes, Watts

    Hogan, Mc Cartin, Garlett

    if I was an opposition coach, even though two haven't played yet, if they have even a smidgeon of impact Sheeit a few would take notice. If they hit their straps early,? Gees that's a Forward line with more than a touch of Potency!!

    Bring it on!!

    I feel like the Coyote chasing the Road Runner!....

    I'm salivating!!

    Highly likely as I guy I work with is close with mc cartin snr and he said saints were well into him early in the season but in recent time have cooled right off

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    Word direct from McCartin's coach at Grammar is that the dees will pick him.

    Not the worst outcome, but I think there is the chance of a marginally better outcome.

    Petracca and Brayshaw being the perfect yet unlikely one.

    I still favour Lever, but you never know for certain how these things will pan out...

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    heres an entire quarter of footage with the camera on McCartin the entire time

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      On 09/11/2014 at 07:07, Machsy said:

    Word direct from McCartin's coach at Grammar is that the dees will pick him.

    Not the worst outcome, but I think there is the chance of a marginally better outcome.

    Petracca and Brayshaw being the perfect yet unlikely one.

    I still favour Lever, but you never know for certain how these things will pan out...

    Is that just his opinion? or more to it?

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:52, Roosy said:

    OK - I'll get back to you with a list when I get a chance to write something up....On the condition that you can guarantee me that you are being honest by saying you are genuinely interested in who I would have picked. If you are more interested in trying to find faults in my previous statement about me being able to put together a better list then you are wasting my time and you can go off and try and be right with someone else. If you want me to be honest with you then you have to be honest with me also. So which is it?

    May put that one in the too hard basket!

      On 09/11/2014 at 00:29, Scythe said:

    Good god, stop the presses! You played golf with your mate?! Unbelievable.

    My mate the HP sauce

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      On 08/11/2014 at 23:52, Roosy said:

    OK - I'll get back to you with a list when I get a chance to write something up....On the condition that you can guarantee me that you are being honest by saying you are genuinely interested in who I would have picked. If you are more interested in trying to find faults in my previous statement about me being able to put together a better list then you are wasting my time and you can go off and try and be right with someone else. If you want me to be honest with you then you have to be honest with me also. So which is it?

    I was interested 10 hours ago. But couldnt care less now.

    I'm not interested in a pissing match. PM me your list if you want. Or dont.

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