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I think the other consideration is it being easier to recruit talent to a club that has undeniable talent in it. Having Danger in our team would be an attractive proposition to lots of other players mulling their options. Kind of washes away the bad taste of the season's second half and replaces it with one of optimism.

 
  On 16/09/2014 at 12:14, Ron Burgundy said:

I have no doubt about our capacity to pay.

My question really concerns our capacity to attract.

Then again, if anyone can do it, Roos can.

The point i'd put to the crows is, 4 wins, 7 games infront in the last quarter, Hogan to come into the side, if danger did join, suddenly we might win these close games and finals wouldn't be out of the question, I don't believe it's as black and white as if he joins us he plays in a bottom 4 side for the next three years, I reckon we won't be that much behind where the crows were this year, plus he'd be home, with a massive pay rise

  On 16/09/2014 at 12:06, Mac7 said:

Article from the start of the year... a lot of talk about success doesn't put us in a great spot...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-dangerfield-to-weigh-up-adelaide-prospects-20140319-hvkhj.html

Interesting they are suggesting he'd potentially be on 1 million a year at the Crows and up to 1.4 mill if he was to come back to Vic. Given thats the case, how many other Victorian clubs could realistically fit him in their cap at present?

 
  On 16/09/2014 at 11:36, Green Machine said:

Just because he might not want to leave Adelaide doesn't mean he would want to stay if they accepted to trade him.

Imagine if your girlfriend told you she was dumping for you for another guy, your not going to stick around knowing that she wants to be with some other bloke.

If Adelaide accept the offer then why would he want to stay there knowing that they have decided to go on without him ? Plus we would offer him an anus load of $$$ !!

Because there is no such thing as loyalty. There is not even any emotion involved any more. The club and the player are both businesses. If one decides to trade in the other, and then trades back, there are no hard feelings. Cash is king.

  On 16/09/2014 at 12:13, rjay said:

'Jack', you've been around long enough to know this doesn't work.

Yes, I've been around long enough to know there's no such thing as a messiah on the MFC scene but nevertheless, Garry Ablett Junior says "hello". Not that I'm suggesting Dangerfield is in the same league as Junior but look at how the Suns stand up when he's around and how badly they folded when he was injured in the last two months of the season.

I also wouldn't advocate putting all of our eggs in one basket either - Roos didn't stop at trading one player last year so the addition of a top shelf marque player and 3 or 4 others together with those coming back from injury and those with plenty of natural improvement in them could make a hell of a lot of difference to the team and the to way Roos coaches them.


  On 16/09/2014 at 11:36, Grand New Flag said:

Danger has expressed (maybe not publically) a desire to return to Melbourne (city) for the 2nd half of his career.... much like Judd. He has publically and openly refused to entertain an extension to his current contract. He is at least entertaining MFCs approaches, which is now a MFC offer. No doubt he is also entertaining other clubs offers. He is highly likely to leave Adelaide .

will you marry me?

  On 16/09/2014 at 11:50, Sir Paul Roos said:

100% agree, take the heat right off Jones and Tyson and lets the young guys develop watching a fully fledged superstar of the game go to work up close

few extra bums on seats too

  On 16/09/2014 at 11:55, Bonkers said:

Roos seemed to manage ok without getting a star like Dangerfield to Sydney, admittedly he had some pretty handy players like goodes already. No point selling the farm for one player that blows out your entire trade period. If Dangerfield is available for a decent price all well & good.

There is also (obviously) the risk of that player getting hurt, in which case you put a whole bunch of eggs in the one basket then dropped the basket

and then you can't have an omelet , which is bad

 
  On 16/09/2014 at 12:06, Mac7 said:

Article from the start of the year... a lot of talk about success doesn't put us in a great spot...

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-dangerfield-to-weigh-up-adelaide-prospects-20140319-hvkhj.html

they just lie though. You can't face the media and say 'I'm just going to go to whoever pays the most'. You know how I know you can't do it? Because nobody ever has. As a society we understand that everyone loves money but its forbidden to be honest about it.

Simon Goodwin skippered Dangerfield for a couple of years.....


  On 16/09/2014 at 12:22, Whispering_Jack said:

Yes, I've been around long enough to know there's no such thing as a messiah on the MFC scene but nevertheless, Garry Ablett Junior says "hello". Not that I'm suggesting Dangerfield is in the same league as Junior but look at how the Suns stand up when he's around and how badly they folded when he was injured in the last two months of the season.

I also wouldn't advocate putting all of our eggs in one basket either - Roos didn't stop at trading one player last year so the addition of a top shelf marque player and 3 or 4 others together with those coming back from injury and those with plenty of natural improvement in them could make a hell of a lot of difference to the team and the to way Roos coaches them.

I was expecting you to throw the Ablett card. Danger is a good player but nowhere near that good, he is explosive at best but is also tagged out of games too easily for mine.

Ablett is rarely tagged out of games and his value has been shown when he missed the end of the season. He is/was the only player I would throw the kitchen sink at.

I would rather take Crouch from Adelaide anyway.

I'm also not convinced we are serious bidders here at least for 2015. Seems to me we are throwing a lot of hand grenades at the moment and it all maybe a smoke and mirrors game. Everyone from Cameron, Danger to Robinson...would love to know what the real game is.

Remember Danger is a FA in 2016, wouldn't it be better to make a big offer to him now and hold until the next year where he walks and we don't give away the farm.

  On 16/09/2014 at 12:36, Lamashtu said:

Any word on whether Danger is meeting Roosy this Thursday GNF?

How would he know?


Interesting post from Crows supporter on another forum:

From the same source that told me in August 2012 that Sydney were into Kurt Tippett (which I refused to believe at the time) I have been told that Melbourne have put Pick 2 and Jack Trengove on the table for Dangerfield

The Messiah will not arrive.

  On 16/09/2014 at 13:19, Lamashtu said:

Interesting post from Crows supporter on another forum:

From the same source that told me in August 2012 that Sydney were into Kurt Tippett (which I refused to believe at the time) I have been told that Melbourne have put Pick 2 and Jack Trengove on the table for Dangerfield

done

  On 16/09/2014 at 13:06, rjay said:

mmmm....

he's the only person on the whole forum with a shred of credibility! He's a valuable resource! He's a national treasure!


  On 15/09/2014 at 02:04, pantaloons said:

Keep the rumors coming.

You're not going to squeeze a contracted superstar from another club to our on-field mess without firstly offering the player a huge wad of cash, and secondly, giving the other club something to seriously consider. In this case, it would be a plump return and the knowledge that we will be knocking with the same offer to Dangerfield in 12 months time, with only one first rounder coming back to Adelaide as compensation.

I'd rate it about a 1% on the probability scale, but I like to imagine we are being active like this.

I wouldn't mind betting the Crows will have another player or more wanting out of there in the next 12 months. I'm going cold on Danger as he could easily end up having physical troubles before his time.

The time to get Danger was 3 or 4 yrs back, when we had the chance.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/money-speaks-loudly-but-if-taylor-walker-defects-to-port-adelaide-he-wont-be-forgiven-writes-graham-cornes/story-fnia3xzy-1227048903941?nk=b9bb57a39125a03af749e6363c1bb6c7

Money speaks loudly but if Taylor Walker defects to Port Adelaide he won’t be forgiven,

TAYLOR Walker leaving the Adelaide Football Club for a massive contract at cross-town rival Port Adelaide would be a greater act of football treachery than Kurt Tippett texting his teammates to say goodbye.

It couldn’t happen — could it? How could he live with himself? Pretty comfortably actually if the $1.3m figure is to be believed.

  On 16/09/2014 at 14:28, dee-luded said:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/money-speaks-loudly-but-if-taylor-walker-defects-to-port-adelaide-he-wont-be-forgiven-writes-graham-cornes/story-fnia3xzy-1227048903941?nk=b9bb57a39125a03af749e6363c1bb6c7

Money speaks loudly but if Taylor Walker defects to Port Adelaide he won’t be forgiven,

TAYLOR Walker leaving the Adelaide Football Club for a massive contract at cross-town rival Port Adelaide would be a greater act of football treachery than Kurt Tippett texting his teammates to say goodbye.

It couldn’t happen — could it? How could he live with himself? Pretty comfortably actually if the $1.3m figure is to be believed.

wtf? it is somehow worse than any other player leaving any other club because the teams are from the same state? If anything it is MORE excusable because he doesn't have t relocate. I wish there was an unwritten law that no other Vic clubs could steal our players

 

Moronic, emotive article. Clark's defection, when it eventuates, will clearly be viewed as one of the most insulting betrayals in football history, through the eyes of any moral person.

  On 16/09/2014 at 12:58, Lamashtu said:

GNF knows all ;)

I get great mail at times, but when you do, you know it's not always consistent or absolute.


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