James Magner's Instagram today

[Deecisive 1,709]

Much as some may like it they cannot replay Sundays game 24 hours a day, but I am pretty sure they are reliving it 24 hours a day. While they exercise, relax, eat and sleep and try to live normal lives as best they can. while we are hurting you can bet these guys are getting it from family friends, TV, newspapers, facebook, twitter, in the street, or in the surf. I doubt there are too many things they would be doing that would take their mind of it entirely, it would keep coming back to haunt them, knowing that they will read about in the newspapers and TV all week, go over it again at training, SAM and the footy show tearing strips off them Thursday and eventually running out again on the weekend against an even better side, who will undoubtedly remind them they are a bunch of [censored] to rile.

Players have got to remember social media comments are forever and will go places and be taken out of context, so really need a bit of training in making sure they dont say something stupid that could come back and haunt them.

[old dee 23,869]

Much as some may like it they cannot replay Sundays game 24 hours a day, but I am pretty sure they are reliving it 24 hours a day. While they exercise, relax, eat and sleep and try to live normal lives as best they can. while we are hurting you can bet these guys are getting it from family friends, TV, newspapers, facebook, twitter, in the street, or in the surf. I doubt there are too many things they would be doing that would take their mind of it entirely, it would keep coming back to haunt them, knowing that they will read about in the newspapers and TV all week, go over it again at training, SAM and the footy show tearing strips off them Thursday and eventually running out again on the weekend against an even better side, who will undoubtedly remind them they are a bunch of [censored] to rile.

Players have got to remember social media comments are forever and will go places and be taken out of context, so really need a bit of training in making sure they dont say something stupid that could come back and haunt them.

It seems to eluded so many

[nutbean 8,838]

I'll have 50 cents both way.

Getting stuck into players on social media in my opinion is poor form.

Having said that - a bit of sensitivity training Mr Magner - to players, it may be a job and they are paid professionals but to the supporters it is purely emotional - we dont get paid to watch football - the opposite - we part with our hard earned because we are emotionally attached.

After a performance of the Sunday with the entire football community lambasting us or plain laughing their arses off at us,and with us supporters experiencing a whole world of hurt, and with players and the club asking us to get around the players on twitter and social media ( knowing we supporters have a window into their world) - a little circumspection would have been the better way to go.

Edited April 2, 2013 by nutbean

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

No they can't post whatever they like as they have a responsibility as role models due to the exposure of their words to the wider community as well as being the faces of very public organisations.

"We"want to make them role models, they don't want to be...they are just footy players

I didn't need role models growing up, my Dad was my role model, perhaps that is what is wrong with modern society...

[old dee 23,869]

"We"want to make them role models, they don't want to be...they are just footy players

I didn't need role models growing up, my Dad was my role model, perhaps that is what is wrong with modern society...

We are going to agree on this one Satriconhome.

There are way to many teenagers who don't have one at all or the one they have stinks.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

You know what ? Im with the supporter 100% its about time these morons who pull on this jumper are aware of how much hurt they are causing us as supporters. Why the hell would you tell the world you're off surfing two days after being humiliated in round one. Yes I know he didn't play but if that were me, there is no way I would be out surfing. This is why our club is a running joke .. what the hell do we stand for? Magner always bites back at supporters maybe he should be more worried about getting into a side that is pathetic at the moment rather then checking his twitter/instagram at the beach.

We as supporters are paying good money for memberships to watch this crap that is served up weekly, I think we should be able to express our disgust. They are in the public eye and are old enough to know when to not bite back. The supporter didn't have a dig at his family or anything bad so why act like a child and have a rant. Im so sick of this club accepting mediocrity and I think that the coaches should have flogged the players every day or at the least made them go into the football club every day this week for serving up what they did on sunday.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Also in regards to Magner's shot at the supporter about jobs .. If we are bad at our jobs we get fired .. simple as that ... these guys have a full year to get better and most of them haven't.

[Little Richard 6,265]

"We"want to make them role models, they don't want to be...they are just footy players

I didn't need role models growing up, my Dad was my role model, perhaps that is what is wrong with modern society...

Once they put on that jumper they inevitebly have a responsibility as a role model, its obvious the way so many kids look up to these players and try to emulate them.

The players know this having been those kids once upon a time.

[Mac7 309]

Much as some may like it they cannot replay Sundays game 24 hours a day, but I am pretty sure they are reliving it 24 hours a day. While they exercise, relax, eat and sleep and try to live normal lives as best they can. while we are hurting you can bet these guys are getting it from family friends, TV, newspapers, facebook, twitter, in the street, or in the surf. I doubt there are too many things they would be doing that would take their mind of it entirely, it would keep coming back to haunt them, knowing that they will read about in the newspapers and TV all week, go over it again at training, SAM and the footy show tearing strips off them Thursday and eventually running out again on the weekend against an even better side, who will undoubtedly remind them they are a bunch of [censored] to rile.

Problem is I don't think they are hurting.

For far too many (not all) of these players footy is nothing more than a pay cheque. They quite like the idea of being a professional footballer but do not have the burning desire to be the best they can be and part of a premiership side.

So much of what is dished up by these players in a MFC jumper would not be tolerated at any other club.

[nutbean 8,838]

"We"want to make them role models, they don't want to be...they are just footy players

I didn't need role models growing up, my Dad was my role model, perhaps that is what is wrong with modern society...

I am not sure i would necessarily use the words "role model" but the MFC and the players have close on 30,000 people who are emotionally invested in what they do - sorry, but they can't have it both ways - the players are paid extraordinary well to perform not just for themselves but for us. Understand that if enough people supportiing enough clubs walk away from this investment then the Magners are out of a job. Without the supporters turning up every week or watching on TV there is no football. So they may want to just be footy players but that luxury was gone when they signed up to play in the big leagues and earn the dollars that comes with that.

So again, I am not an advocate of gettng stuck into the players on twitter - but players need to understand the investment that supporters have in them and be a little sensitive to how gutted supporters would be after an insipid performance like Sunday

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Here is an example of the constructive criticism on Twitter, have a look @godees77, perhaps that will go some way to explaining why the role model arced up

[[email protected] 101]

Magner well within his rights to say that. Supporters should get a life or take up amateur football to get some insight into how [censored] hard football is.

"Supporters should get a life" etc.?? (your quote) How many Supporters do YOU think may have played AFL/VFL (pre AFL) football. Your comment is too general and totally out of context. They are not questionong how F**ng hard football is just how hard it seeems to be for many Melbourne Demons players as compared for example to players from Port Adelaide.. The Dees were a bloody disgrace on Sunday .. end of story !! IF they WERE interested and doing their best , then we seriously have to take a very very serious look at around three quarters of our current List don't you think ???? I love this Football Club but I haven't liked where it has been heading for the past few years.

[rpfc 28,726]

I can. Just a little miffed that of all the topics to comment on you chose this one as your first.

I don't why?

What a story this is.

A Demon reacts stupidly after goading from a Demon fan.

We are bringing this nonsense on ourselves.

We are tearing ourselves apart.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

"Supporters should get a life" etc.?? (your quote) How many Supporters do YOU think may have played AFL/VFL (pre AFL) football. Your comment is too general and totally out of context. They are not questionong how F**ng hard football is just how hard it seeems to be for many Melbourne Demons players as compared for example to players from Port Adelaide.. The Dees were a bloody disgrace on Sunday .. end of story !! IF they WERE interested and doing their best , then we seriously have to take a very very serious look at around three quarters of our current List don't you think ???? I love this Football Club but I haven't liked where it has been heading for the past few years.

Great post .. that last line is so true

It is time we as supporters stopped buying the [censored] that we are being fed. I don't care about protecting their feelings because they sure as hell don't give a rats about ours. Stop babying them they are old enough to handle criticism we have been soft, second rate, slow and lazy for the better part of 5 years and I for one am sick of it. Pull your heads out of your asses Melbourne and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!

[Demon_Tingles 211]

We are tearing ourselves apart.

No we aren't the players are tearing us apart as supporters because half of us baby the team and the other half are sick of the crap and want action taken. If the bloody team won some games for a change then we wouldn't react like we do... even if we didn't win don't bend over pull down our pants and present for the opposition to stick it in. Show some bloody fight for god sake. I don't mind if we don't win every week but I do mind when he just stop and let supposedly inferior teams crap all over us.

[ignition. 1,466]

Webber said he would use the surf as his remedy after the Vettel incident. You may have a point.

Absolutely, think of going on a long hike and finding yourself at a magnificent breath taking destination - it's peaceful, calm and relaxing.

In one way that is what it's like, you paddle out the back of the crashing waves, you sit and wait - no technology like phones or internet to distract you just the feeling of the ocean and wind with the crashing dull whitewash behind you. For a good 85-95% of that session you sit and wait doing nothing more than thinking. Sure if with mates you crack the odd joke and odd smile but majority of that time you sit, wait and think and there is no shrink in the world that can equal that thought process. Between this time you see waves coming, slightly prompted distractions and you paddle like crazy, release energy and get your mind off your thoughts for just a short period of time - whilst getting a joy or rush out of that wave. Once done back to that thinking process, slightly more relieved to realistically think and deal with the issue at hand, and so the process repeats for a couple to a several hours.

Many people remain to have the old fashioned views of surfing and surfers, although majority of these people haven't tried it on their own let alone beyond the learn to surf classes held at your local beach. I would consider the remedy in the same class as playing or listening to music, or creating a piece of art although incorporating intensive burst exercise.

[Hatchman 539]

Absolutely, think of going on a long hike and finding yourself at a magnificent breath taking destination - it's peaceful, calm and relaxing.

In one way that is what it's like, you paddle out the back of the crashing waves, you sit and wait - no technology like phones or internet to distract you just the feeling of the ocean and wind with the crashing dull whitewash behind you. For a good 85-95% of that session you sit and wait doing nothing more than thinking. Sure if with mates you crack the odd joke and odd smile but majority of that time you sit, wait and think and there is no shrink in the world that can equal that thought process. Between this time you see waves coming, slightly prompted distractions and you paddle like crazy, release energy and get your mind off your thoughts for just a short period of time - whilst getting a joy or rush out of that wave. Once done back to that thinking process, slightly more relieved to realistically think and deal with the issue at hand, and so the process repeats for a couple to a several hours.

Many people remain to have the old fashioned views of surfing and surfers, although majority of these people haven't tried it on their own let alone beyond the learn to surf classes held at your local beach. I would consider the remedy in the same class as playing or listening to music, or creating a piece of art although incorporating intensive burst exercise.

I've surfed for 20 years and still get out at least once a week. Definitely the one thing that keeps me sane, everything you say is true, it combines exercise, adrenalin and a calm state of mind out on the water that completely revitalises you.

One of my favorite surf spots is Big Left down at Flinders, I love it there, you're so far out in the water, surrounded by cliffs and the open ocean, no noise except for the waves, it's the best therapy you can have and the waves are pretty good too, especially when they are like the ones I rode last Saturday

[old dee 23,869]

One thing is for sure Magner has created more comment on here with his tweet

than he ever has with his playing ability

[rjay 25,061]

I know we are frustrated but I don't agree with booing the players, it just goes against the grain for me.

...I work in a biz where people often feel they have a right to make comment about what I do and some of it is quite amazing, especially if they've had a few. Message to James just have a good laugh about it mate and don't take it personally, at times I think it would be fun to go to the workplace of some of these big mouths and get stuck into them about how they are working on their computers, answering phone calls, serving people etc. But in the end they are paying the price of admission.

[gotzy9 33]

Seriously just [censored] off magner. You are a [censored] of a bloke and the quicker we show you the door the better.

[Bay Riffin 1,478]

One thing is for sure Magner has created more comment on here with his tweet

than he ever has with his playing ability

Magner has more inside ability than a lot of midfielders. maybe not as athletic as a lot of AFL OK midifelders but he has ability no doubt.

Givem me a magner with fire in his guts over the politically correct Jack Watts who's response to another smashing is 'what just happened?'.

At least Magner has some balls and should definitely be in our side.

[felixdacat 459]

If a fan wants to criticise a player then they have every right to do so BUT in the same respect players have a right to reply and if you are going to criticize then expect to be challenged. Have no sympathy for both parties in this issue. Have an issue with someone drumming up support or the like for an argument that they start and are not happy with the outcome. Lacks character for mine.

[footywidow 7]

Genuine question...

What exactly do people want the players to be doing after they have lost? They are being criticised for having a surf, of all things! Should they be at home crying, drinking, drowning their sorrows? Should they back at the club training more, risking overdoing it and injuring themselves? Going over and over and over the game footage? Really, you can only do that so many times!

I said it before, but however much you are 'hurting' as a supporter, I can guarantee the players are hurting a lot more. As someone else said, they can't escape it, EVERYONE wants to ask them whats going wrong, is it the coach, is it this, is it that? Plus, obviously they hate losing. Its a $hit feeling, moreso when you are playing than when you are watching. Imagine being booed off the field like they were.

I'm not saying anyone needs to be happy about them losing all the time, just that its unfair to have potshots at players about what they do with their free time, and then expect the player to be okay with that.

[rpfc 28,726]

Seriously just [censored] off magner. You are a [censored] of a bloke and the quicker we show you the door the better.

Sad, sad state of affairs...

I don't like what we are doing to ourselves on this sh!t.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot.

No good will come out of it.

[old dee 23,869]

Magner has more inside ability than a lot of midfielders. maybe not as athletic as a lot of AFL OK midifelders but he has ability no doubt.

Givem me a magner with fire in his guts over the politically correct Jack Watts who's response to another smashing is 'what just happened?'.

At least Magner has some balls and should definitely be in our side.

Then how come he is still on the rookie list?

He was not elevated at the end of 2012 and will only get a game if someone goes down with a serious injury.