Well my old mans favourite saying is "no matter what time it is during the game, big men stay big." He also says that if he was a coach he would field a team full of red heads as they just seem to be angry at the world so they make good players.

I think our balance is a lot better having a few 'true' position players. As in a giant Clark at FF or CHF with Dawes sharing and Pedro obviously swapping with Jamar in the ruck.

They along with Watts and Frawley are the only real certin starters IMO and that doesnt necessarily make us a giant team.

Gillies is back up for Chip, no more no less. Gawn will still take time to develop the required leg strength to become a good ruckman which will be in perfect timing when the Rush is finishing up. Spencer is just depth for now. Sellar is a role player and will play against teams with multiple monster forwards.

Fitzy will pressure Pedro and Dawes to keep performing at there best.

I think the amount of talls on the list is just right

Interesting deeko My dad used to say 6' 5" is still 6'5" at the 20 minute mark of the last quarter.

As a boy it took me a while to work his saying out.

Not to burst any bubbles, but also to alleviate any fears here are the two Grand Finalist's players over 193cm: Basically they have the same amount as us, and all are similarly heavy. Basically it seems like this is a normal amount of talls for an AFL list. Also it seems that AFL players in general are getting taller, just in doing this excercise it became aparent that players under 180cm are relatively rare (the swans only have 2!) and also that several teams have players in the 190-194cm range playing vastly different roles, eg Grundy is a KPD at 192cm while Goodes plays largely as a wingman/midfielder at 194cm. Basically all the teams are tall, they just contain a range of body types and abilities suited to roles.

Hawthorn 2012:

Bailey 206cm

Lowden 204cm

Hale 201cm

Grimley 199cm

Boumann 196cm

Franklin 196cm

Roughead 193cm

Birchall 193cm

Gunston 193cm

Schoenmakers 193cm

Sydney 2012:

Pike 200cm

Mumford 199cm

White 197cm

Reid 195cm

Walsh 195cm

Roberts-Thompson 194cm

Everitt 194cm

Goodes 194cm

A. Johnstone 193cm

Richards 193cm

Not to burst any bubbles, but also to alleviate any fears here are the two Grand Finalist's players over 193cm: Basically they have the same amount as us, and all are similarly heavy. Basically it seems like this is a normal amount of talls for an AFL list. Also it seems that AFL players in general are getting taller, just in doing this excercise it became aparent that players under 180cm are relatively rare (the swans only have 2!) and also that several teams have players in the 190-194cm range playing vastly different roles, eg Grundy is a KPD at 192cm while Goodes plays largely as a wingman/midfielder at 194cm. Basically all the teams are tall, they just contain a range of body types and abilities suited to roles.

Hawthorn 2012:

Bailey 206cm

Lowden 204cm

Hale 201cm

Grimley 199cm

Boumann 196cm

Franklin 196cm

Roughead 193cm

Birchall 193cm

Gunston 193cm

Schoenmakers 193cm

Sydney 2012:

Pike 200cm

Mumford 199cm

White 197cm

Reid 195cm

Walsh 195cm

Roberts-Thompson 194cm

Everitt 194cm

Goodes 194cm

A. Johnstone 193cm

Richards 193cm

edit: Punctuation

How dare you ruin our dreaming with your logic.

Not semantics at all. You were wrong.

No I wasn't.

Thank you Jbag for broadening my education - specifically my vocabulary. I just researched the previously unknown "chode". Fantastic- I cannot wait to use it. In the most inappropriate circumstances of course.

I had to Google it as it didn't appear in two online dictionaries. Haven't ever seen the guy but he must ge an awful sight!!

And I just cannot stop laughing every time I try to picture him..

And, by the way, certainly not a single chode amongst those listed! :-)))))

My dad used to say 6' 5" is still 6'5" at the 20 minute mark of the last quarter.

Don't mean diddly if your names Koschitzke.

T.Mcdonald, Garland, Davis and Dunn are also over 190cm.

Too many of the same kind.

Do we really need Sellar, Gilies and Davis?

Why do we have them, considering we have Pedo up forward, and Watts, Dunn, Mcdonald and Garland down back.

Just cause neeld is 190cm, dosnt mean the team has to be moulded in his image.

Personally I'm a lot closer to you than most others.

A horribly unbalanced team of mostly good VFL players. Two years time when we are getting rid of most of them we will be horribly void of good smart young footballers. Neeld is pinning his career on a very risky path

Not to burst any bubbles, but also to alleviate any fears here are the two Grand Finalist's players over 193cm: Basically they have the same amount as us, and all are similarly heavy. Basically it seems like this is a normal amount of talls for an AFL list. Also it seems that AFL players in general are getting taller, just in doing this excercise it became aparent that players under 180cm are relatively rare (the swans only have 2!) and also that several teams have players in the 190-194cm range playing vastly different roles, eg Grundy is a KPD at 192cm while Goodes plays largely as a wingman/midfielder at 194cm. Basically all the teams are tall, they just contain a range of body types and abilities suited to roles.

Hawthorn 2012:

Bailey 206cm

Lowden 204cm

Hale 201cm

Grimley 199cm

Boumann 196cm

Franklin 196cm

Roughead 193cm

Birchall 193cm

Gunston 193cm

Schoenmakers 193cm

Sydney 2012:

Pike 200cm

Mumford 199cm

White 197cm

Reid 195cm

Walsh 195cm

Roberts-Thompson 194cm

Everitt 194cm

Goodes 194cm

A. Johnstone 193cm

Richards 193cm

Now list the mid runners and you'll see why we are only above GWC and GC

Personally I'm a lot closer to you than most others.

A horribly unbalanced team of mostly good VFL players. Two years time when we are getting rid of most of them we will be horribly void of good smart young footballers. Neeld is pinning his career on a very risky path

Mark Thomson cleared the weeds out of Geelong unless they were very quick or very good .

Its the first thing he told Hird to do also.

Size matters these days.

Skill helps too .