I don't get it! Why is this guy so special when "Hines" is head of recruiting at the filth?

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:09, why you little said:

who's talking AFL Rules here?

I am talking Business Rules.

"Loose Lips Sink Ships" is a beauty, says it all. We must play hard ball & give nothing away.

the idea of playing hard...and being the good guys is an anachronism

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:13, Demon Forever said:

I don't get it! Why is this guy so special when "Hines" is head of recruiting at the filth?

He comes highly regarded.

No-one knows how he will do as head recruiter, most on this thread think we screwed over Eddie and that's enough for them.

Personally, I say welcome aboard Jason. Now go and pick footy players who like to play football the way it is played today.

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:16, belzebub59 said:

the idea of playing hard...and being the good guys is an anachronism

when do you ever here Stephen Wells speak.

He knows his job.

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:20, why you little said:

when do you ever here Stephen Wells speak.

He knows his job.

what an erroneous comment relevance ?

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:23, belzebub59 said:

what an erroneous comment relevance ?

success at doing a job without making waves year after year.

That is how i hope Taylor does the job.

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:27, why you little said:

success at doing a job without making waves year after year.

That is how i hope Taylor does the job.

over there the water in calm.

over here its choppy

somewhere else a Tsunami warnign sqawls.

Its irrelevent.

It only matter for Melbourne that we are Melbourne and successful. its interesteing we all dride Carlton for their brown bags. We disdain at Collingwood and their 'power to do as they see fit ' . We despise Esssendons arrogance. We mock Hawthorns snobishness, we are amused by Geelongs 'Geelong-ness" their city limitedness etc.

They all have one thing in commn, they really dont give a [censored]

Neither ought we !! get it

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:31, belzebub59 said:

over there the water in calm.

over here its choppy

somewhere else a Tsunami warnign sqawls.

Its irrelevent.

It only matter for Melbourne that we are Melbourne and successful. its interesteing we all dride Carlton for their brown bags. We disdain at Collingwood and their 'power to do as they see fit ' . We despise Esssendons arrogance. We mock Hawthorns snobishness, we are amused by Geelongs 'Geelong-ness" their city limitedness etc.

They all have one thing in commn, they really dont give a [censored]

Neither ought we !! get it

i don't give a F$&@k about the 17 other clubs either. But there are ways of quietly doing it right or being stupid.

To break rules is stupid. To use rules to an advantage is smart.

to get caught is stupid...!!!

you suggest using the rules is ok...there are NO f'n rules...Only in your head. The real world suggests there is then rewards those who ignore them. Wake up

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:38, belzebub59 said:

to get caught is stupid...!!!

you suggest using the rules is ok...there are NO f'n rules...Only in your head. The real world suggests there is then rewards those who ignore them. Wake up

oh i am awake. We have already F$&@ked up the past 5 years & cannot afford to do it again. The MFC have to be smarter than the rest to rise from the pit.

"Swim under the surface" to get what we want and need.

who is he?

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:43, why you little said:

oh i am awake. We have already F$&@ked up the past 5 years & cannot afford to do it again. The MFC have to be smarter than the rest to rise from the pit.

"Swim under the surface" to get what we want and need.

for f sake you suggest all the untowad things, allthe scurrulous activity, the "swimming beneath teh surface:" wtf do you think this is other than disregarding everyone else and simply not being caught ?

Your trying to assume the high ground whilst duck diving. A toal joke for mine.

Either acknowlege the reality and how its REALLY done and forget the brouhaha or live in your idealistic dreamworld.

How its done is how its done. How its seen is a whole different thing. How its seen is often a result of whether caught or not, not intent.

I care not for the other 17 clubs., not a bit

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:55, belzebub59 said:

for f sake you suggest all the untowad things, allthe scurrulous activity, the "swimming beneath teh surface:" wtf do you think this is other than disregarding everyone else and simply not being caught ?

Your trying to assume the high ground whilst duck diving. A toal joke for mine.

Either acknowlege the reality and how its REALLY done and forget the brouhaha or live in your idealistic dreamworld.

How its done is how its done. How its seen is a whole different thing. How its seen is often a result of whether caught or not, not intent.

I care not for the other 17 clubs., not a bit

ok. You go in there with fire and brimstone punching on and flinging paper bags.

I will research quietly and get what i want.

  On 25/09/2012 at 12:02, why you little said:

ok. You go in there with fire and brimstone punching on and flinging paper bags.

I will research quietly and get what i want.

Thankyou for your permission. Ill sleep better now

You quite hypocritical in this issue.

You are quite happy to do all the "wrong" stuff.. Just quietly. What on gods earth do you think is the alternative. To parade down Bourke st with a marchng band trumpeting the news ?? But if some one was to suggest that theyre quite happy with this its folly ?

Rubbish.

Do I actually expect Taylor to do anything ? No

Would I be upset or compromised if he did ? ( that is give a nudge or a wink via notes written in invisible ink ) Not in the slightest.

You obviosuly havent the slightest clue what some of us have been saying.

What I find interesting is that when Barry Prendergast was hired by MFC it was regarded as a coup by the Club as 'he was highly regarded" .....how times change

What's so good about him? Not sure. He's been learning the caper from one of the best in Hines, so if he can bring some of that wisdom to bear on our footy club's recruiting processes and decision-making, then I'll be happy. Has to be an upgrade on previous years.

  On 25/09/2012 at 23:43, belzebub59 said:

Thankyou for your permission. Ill sleep better now

You quite hypocritical in this issue.

You are quite happy to do all the "wrong" stuff.. Just quietly. What on gods earth do you think is the alternative. To parade down Bourke st with a marchng band trumpeting the news ?? But if some one was to suggest that theyre quite happy with this its folly ?

Rubbish.

Do I actually expect Taylor to do anything ? No

Would I be upset or compromised if he did ? ( that is give a nudge or a wink via notes written in invisible ink ) Not in the slightest.

You obviosuly havent the slightest clue what some of us have been saying.

we just see it differently BB59

I can read what people are saying.

  On 25/09/2012 at 23:43, belzebub59 said:

Thankyou for your permission. Ill sleep better now

You quite hypocritical in this issue.

You are quite happy to do all the "wrong" stuff.. Just quietly. What on gods earth do you think is the alternative. To parade down Bourke st with a marchng band trumpeting the news ?? But if some one was to suggest that theyre quite happy with this its folly ?

Rubbish.

Do I actually expect Taylor to do anything ? No

Would I be upset or compromised if he did ? ( that is give a nudge or a wink via notes written in invisible ink ) Not in the slightest.

You obviosuly havent the slightest clue what some of us have been saying.

Its all about integrity. If I was Jason Taylor and a MFC official asked directly / indirectly for some 'tips' then I would be very disappointed in that official and even question the values of the club. But that's just me.

  On 26/09/2012 at 00:03, djr said:

Its all about integrity. If I was Jason Taylor and a MFC official asked directly / indirectly for some 'tips' then I would be very disappointed in that official and even question the values of the club. But that's just me.

Me too, and if Jason Taylor offered some "tips" he would not be seen as being a trusted employee. In fact I would be very surprised if the club would employ him.

We've made our bed this year with Todd and co. and lets just hope they get it right. Time will tell.

  On 25/09/2012 at 23:49, satyricon said:

What I find interesting is that when Barry Prendergast was hired by MGC it was regarded as a coup by the Club as 'he was highly regarded" .....how times change

Why would you find it "interesting" ? Clearly when anyone is promoted it is hoped and expected they'll do well; and you wouldn't hire someone in the first place unless their football reputation was good. But it's also no guarantee they'll make good choices.

Btw, Prendergast was hired from within the club. He was Daniher's opposition analyst. You're giving the impression that he was new to the club.

  On 26/09/2012 at 00:20, rjay said:

Me too, and if Jason Taylor offered some "tips" he would not be seen as being a trusted employee. In fact I would be very surprised if the club would employ him.

We've made our bed this year with Todd and co. and lets just hope they get it right. Time will tell.

Im not sure it would be this black and white ( pardon the pun) . For a start we have two perhaps three high picks ( depending on Viney) this year well before the pies. He may be asked his impression on the picks we are leaning to as they wouldn't be around at collingwoods pick anyway. Or, if we were deciding between 2 or 3 players in a late pick, he may also be asked his opinion. I dont think there's too much untoward in any of that and it would be naive to think we wouldnt be interested in his thoughts.

Also, I may just add that this is the rod COLLINGWOOD created for itself by making him stay another year as assistant. We shouldnt have to be TOO careful in this situation. We need to be respectful...but not overly so.

All i can reasonably deduce is many live in a fairytale world.

There is NO level playing field. You make the best of anything you can.

  On 26/09/2012 at 00:29, Ben-Hur said:

Why would you find it "interesting" ? Clearly when anyone is promoted it is hoped and expected they'll do well; and you wouldn't hire someone in the first place unless their football reputation was good. But it's also no guarantee they'll make good choices.

Btw, Prendergast was hired from within the club. He was Daniher's opposition analyst. You're giving the impression that he was new to the club.

I know what he was, that was my point, when first hired it was regarded as a 'good thing'...but also when he became recruiting manager it again was regarded as a good thing......I just love the coveting that goes on on this board....MFC are hopeless at this, that, the other, why can't we be like Geelong/Pies/Swans......as another poster said in another thread...why some continually stick with a basket case of a club that is so obviously the MFC at the moment, is beyond him (and me)........is there anything that everybody on this board is happy with that the Club has done?...doesn't seem to be....should rename this board Demoncarping or Envyland

.can't wait for the bagging in a couple of years time if Taylor decides to join us and one of his high picks 'fails'

Ah but youre forgeting. With our imminent meteoric rise up the ladder "high" picks will become a thing of the past

  On 25/09/2012 at 11:13, Demon Forever said:

I don't get it! Why is this guy so special when "Hines" is head of recruiting at the filth?

Because he is shiny and new.