Tim Harrington was previously with North so I would imagine that he still has a few contacts there and I would hope he has asked the right questions about Pederson's lack of opportunities.

Lack of opportnuties or not, the simple facts are he was recruited as a mature=aged rookie & managed only 2 games in 2012 with a middle-of-the road outfit.

A depth player worth a late third round pick at best .. if NM don't want that, then forget it

Lack of opportnuties or not, the simple facts are he was recruited as a mature=aged rookie & managed only 2 games in 2012 with a middle-of-the road outfit.

A depth player worth a late third round pick at best .. if NM don't want that, then forget it

Whilst I essentially agree im coming around to the ideas floated by some that we do what we need to do to get what we ant. Others can work it out for themselves as to value.

We could cut off our nose to spite our face if not careful.

We want what we want...our only available currency is the picks we have, they disappear as exchange come 2pm Friday

Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday.

Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday.

They cannot expect to get the same for Pederson as they did for Mcintosh imo, is crazy, why even think that? i think we will get 33 and use it will be a good player imo, maybe a Haynes, Towers or Carter type

If we get 33 we will use it.

They cannot expect to get the same for Pederson as they did for Mcintosh imo, is crazy, why even think that? i think we will get 33 and use it will be a good player imo, maybe a Haynes, Towers or Carter type

If we get 33 we will use it.

Why should we get 33 for Martin?

Why should we get 33 for Martin?

Because he is a freakishly tall human being, and people of that size command a lot more than people of the same ability but 10-25cm shorter.

Because he is a freakishly tall human being, and people of that size command a lot more than people of the same ability but 10-25cm shorter.

Being tall is useless unless you can actually play footy ... still a very questionable attribute as far as Martin is concerned.

Pick 33 would be madness for him.

Being tall is useless unless you can actually play footy ... still a very questionable attribute as far as Martin is concerned.

Pick 33 would be madness for him.

Tell that to clubs that spent similar or better picks on the likes of Meesen, Brooks, Robert "the lesser" Warnock, Lisle, Renouf, Hale, Paul Johnson, Wood, washed up Everitt, the list goes on.

Tell that to clubs that spent similar or better picks on the likes of Meesen, Brooks, Robert "the lesser" Warnock, Lisle, Renouf, Hale, Paul Johnson, Wood, washed up Everitt, the list goes on.

You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight.

You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight.

Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for.

Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for.

isnt that what were doing....trading, not drafting !!

You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight.

**Face palm**

Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for.

You misunderstand me or I'm not making myself clear. I'm asking you ... what were each of them traded for?

Nth interested possibly in the Gys..

The thick plottens !!!! Lol

Nth interested possibly in the Gys..

The thick plottens !!!! Lol

Posted this is the trade murmurings thread:

Just to add some crap to the pile:

Gysberts for Pedersen

3rd rounder for Martin

http://www.footballn...-in-trade-week/

Edited October 25, 201213 yr by timmy

You misunderstand me or I'm not making myself clear. I'm asking you ... what were each of them traded for?

Well, it doesn't really add or detract from my argument, but as you wish:

PJ for 29

Brooks for 6 and 31

Wood for 14

Renouf for 33

Lisle for 29

Old Everitt 33

Street 20

Meesen 38

Warnock and 69 for 24, 56 and 72

Hale and 52 for 19 and 71

Gysberts for Pedersen

http://www.footballn...-in-trade-week/

SMH reporting that as well

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/demon-gysberts-emerges-as-possible-solution-to-pederson-trade-20121025-287bm.html

Well, it doesn't really add or detract from my argument, but as you wish:

PJ for 29

Brooks for 6 and 31

Wood for 14

Renouf for 33

Lisle for 29

Old Everitt 33

Street 20

Meesen 38

Warnock and 69 for 24, 56 and 72

Hale and 52 for 19 and 71

I suppose it doesn't. But it sure stacks up as evidence as to why any club should proceed with caution with spud ruckmen!

SMH reporting that as well

http://www.smh.com.a...1025-287bm.html

I rate Gysberts higher then Pederson, especially since our midfield is atrocious and we need as much midfield potential as we can possibly have.

Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday.

Doesn't seem right that North want us to pay overs for Pederson so that they can get Jacobs. Thats their problem not ours.We should pay what Pederson is worth to us , nothing more

I rate Gysberts higher then Pederson, especially since our midfield is atrocious and we need as much midfield potential as we can possibly have.

That's the issue, too much potential and not enough performance.

If they want to make an early call on Gysberts then that is better than losing him for even less next year when we push him harder than we did this year and play him even less. He won't get a game next year.

He won't want to be around after this contract is up, surely.

That's the issue, too much potential and not enough performance.

If they want to make an early call on Gysberts then that is better than losing him for even less next year when we push him harder than we did this year and play him even less. He won't get a game next year.

He won't want to be around after this contract is up, surely.

It ll be depressing when Brock Mclean is tearing it up and we have Pederson struggling to make our first 22 due to the abundance of talls we have.

It ll be depressing when Brock Mclean is tearing it up and we have Pederson struggling to make our first 22 due to the abundance of talls we have.

I never thought I'd use this trm but .... MFCSS.

Why should we get 33 for Martin?

It has been mentioned, that is robbery i agree, i would think a pick around 50 would do it personally

This is the first time I've ever been sick to death of a player BEFORE he joined us.