Weedster 174 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Tim Harrington was previously with North so I would imagine that he still has a few contacts there and I would hope he has asked the right questions about Pederson's lack of opportunities. Lack of opportnuties or not, the simple facts are he was recruited as a mature=aged rookie & managed only 2 games in 2012 with a middle-of-the road outfit.A depth player worth a late third round pick at best .. if NM don't want that, then forget it
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Lack of opportnuties or not, the simple facts are he was recruited as a mature=aged rookie & managed only 2 games in 2012 with a middle-of-the road outfit. A depth player worth a late third round pick at best .. if NM don't want that, then forget it Whilst I essentially agree im coming around to the ideas floated by some that we do what we need to do to get what we ant. Others can work it out for themselves as to value.We could cut off our nose to spite our face if not careful. We want what we want...our only available currency is the picks we have, they disappear as exchange come 2pm Friday
old55 23,860 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday.
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday. They cannot expect to get the same for Pederson as they did for Mcintosh imo, is crazy, why even think that? i think we will get 33 and use it will be a good player imo, maybe a Haynes, Towers or Carter type If we get 33 we will use it.
rpfc 29,020 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 They cannot expect to get the same for Pederson as they did for Mcintosh imo, is crazy, why even think that? i think we will get 33 and use it will be a good player imo, maybe a Haynes, Towers or Carter type If we get 33 we will use it. Why should we get 33 for Martin?
pantaloons 2,019 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Why should we get 33 for Martin? Because he is a freakishly tall human being, and people of that size command a lot more than people of the same ability but 10-25cm shorter.
Guest Hulkamania Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Because he is a freakishly tall human being, and people of that size command a lot more than people of the same ability but 10-25cm shorter. Being tall is useless unless you can actually play footy ... still a very questionable attribute as far as Martin is concerned. Pick 33 would be madness for him.
pantaloons 2,019 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Being tall is useless unless you can actually play footy ... still a very questionable attribute as far as Martin is concerned. Pick 33 would be madness for him. Tell that to clubs that spent similar or better picks on the likes of Meesen, Brooks, Robert "the lesser" Warnock, Lisle, Renouf, Hale, Paul Johnson, Wood, washed up Everitt, the list goes on.
Guest Hulkamania Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Tell that to clubs that spent similar or better picks on the likes of Meesen, Brooks, Robert "the lesser" Warnock, Lisle, Renouf, Hale, Paul Johnson, Wood, washed up Everitt, the list goes on. You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight.
pantaloons 2,019 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight. Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for. isnt that what were doing....trading, not drafting !!
Jonesbag 487 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 You need to list the picks they were taken the second time around for your argument to carry weight. **Face palm**
Guest Hulkamania Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Huh? That's not their draft position, but what they were traded for. You misunderstand me or I'm not making myself clear. I'm asking you ... what were each of them traded for?
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Nth interested possibly in the Gys.. The thick plottens !!!! Lol
timmy 29 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Nth interested possibly in the Gys.. The thick plottens !!!! Lol Posted this is the trade murmurings thread: Just to add some crap to the pile: Gysberts for Pedersen 3rd rounder for Martin http://www.footballn...-in-trade-week/
pantaloons 2,019 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 You misunderstand me or I'm not making myself clear. I'm asking you ... what were each of them traded for? Well, it doesn't really add or detract from my argument, but as you wish: PJ for 29 Brooks for 6 and 31 Wood for 14 Renouf for 33 Lisle for 29 Old Everitt 33 Street 20 Meesen 38 Warnock and 69 for 24, 56 and 72 Hale and 52 for 19 and 71
Wilson7 2,689 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Gysberts for Pedersen http://www.footballn...-in-trade-week/ SMH reporting that as well http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/demon-gysberts-emerges-as-possible-solution-to-pederson-trade-20121025-287bm.html
Guest Hulkamania Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Well, it doesn't really add or detract from my argument, but as you wish: PJ for 29 Brooks for 6 and 31 Wood for 14 Renouf for 33 Lisle for 29 Old Everitt 33 Street 20 Meesen 38 Warnock and 69 for 24, 56 and 72 Hale and 52 for 19 and 71 I suppose it doesn't. But it sure stacks up as evidence as to why any club should proceed with caution with spud ruckmen!
olisik 4,060 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 SMH reporting that as well http://www.smh.com.a...1025-287bm.html I rate Gysberts higher then Pederson, especially since our midfield is atrocious and we need as much midfield potential as we can possibly have.
loges 6,767 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Pederson deal looks like going down the the wire. North want Jacobs and don't want to do a deal with us only to see us snaffle 33 for Martin after that. Tippett uncertainty appears to be cruelling the Martin trade. I suspect Pederson for 49 to us and maybe Jacobs for 38 to North at the last minute on Friday. Doesn't seem right that North want us to pay overs for Pederson so that they can get Jacobs. Thats their problem not ours.We should pay what Pederson is worth to us , nothing more
rpfc 29,020 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 I rate Gysberts higher then Pederson, especially since our midfield is atrocious and we need as much midfield potential as we can possibly have. That's the issue, too much potential and not enough performance. If they want to make an early call on Gysberts then that is better than losing him for even less next year when we push him harder than we did this year and play him even less. He won't get a game next year. He won't want to be around after this contract is up, surely.
olisik 4,060 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 That's the issue, too much potential and not enough performance. If they want to make an early call on Gysberts then that is better than losing him for even less next year when we push him harder than we did this year and play him even less. He won't get a game next year. He won't want to be around after this contract is up, surely. It ll be depressing when Brock Mclean is tearing it up and we have Pederson struggling to make our first 22 due to the abundance of talls we have.
Guest Hulkamania Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 It ll be depressing when Brock Mclean is tearing it up and we have Pederson struggling to make our first 22 due to the abundance of talls we have. I never thought I'd use this trm but .... MFCSS.
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Why should we get 33 for Martin? It has been mentioned, that is robbery i agree, i would think a pick around 50 would do it personally
Supermercado 2,806 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 This is the first time I've ever been sick to death of a player BEFORE he joined us.
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