We've become conditioned to make excuses for them.

We shouldn't tolerate it anymore.

Discuss.

RR, what's happening? Have you stopped going to that therapist I recommended? And you're back to your old habits in no time. C'mon mate, back on the blue bus.....

And when there is a large cull, please don't claim that your endless threads and polls swayed the list management team.

Oh absolutely I will be. It will show that even on fan forums we can help make a difference.

Club powerbrokers read these threads.

Oh absolutely I will be. It will show that even on fan forums we can help make a difference.

Club powerbrokers read these threads.

someone get the white coat

Oh absolutely I will be. It will show that even on fan forums we can help make a difference.

Club powerbrokers read these threads.

I thought this was sarcasm... then I realised

We've become conditioned to make excuses for them.

We shouldn't tolerate it anymore.

Discuss.

You're becoming intolerable.

You're becoming intolerable.

No, Melbourne's non-performing players are.

You are in denial and referring your grief onto me.

You're becoming intolerable.

No, the interoperability is the clubs lack of Performance over decades. And the lack of the Board doing something about our Ongoing woeful culture.

We've become conditioned to make excuses for them.

We shouldn't tolerate it anymore.

Discuss.

Dear Range Rover,

Please find yourself a nice young lady who'd be willing to have sex with you.

Your boredom is starting to [censored] the rest of us off.

Many thank yous.

You know I like your style RR, but seriously mate, what can we do? You can say "enough is enough", stamp your feet and demand list culls, but how are we meant to influence this change in any meaningful way?

We can protest through not paying memberships and not turning up to matches. Actions such as this only hurt the club in the long run.

We can write to the club expressing how we feel about the current situation, but that's hardly going to bring about any revelations internally.

It's not a matter of accepting, it's more a matter of realising that we as supporters can only do so much. The club's actual direction is something we have very little influence over at all.

You seriously started this topic!! on this site !!!!, omg i needed a good laugh.

You know I like your style RR, but seriously mate, what can we do? You can say "enough is enough", stamp your feet and demand list culls, but how are we meant to influence this change in any meaningful way?

We can protest through not paying memberships and not turning up to matches. Actions such as this only hurt the club in the long run.

We can write to the club expressing how we feel about the current situation, but that's hardly going to bring about any revelations internally.

It's not a matter of accepting, it's more a matter of realising that we as supporters can only do so much. The club's actual direction is something we have very little influence over at all.

Thank you P_Man. I know there are a lot of supporters out there who feel the way you, I and others do.

Don't be put off by the status-quo merchants who say we are pi$$ing in the wind. Write letters, post on forums, call radio stations, speak to your MFC supporting friends.

Words have the power to change minds.

Dear Range Rover,

Please find yourself a nice young lady who'd be willing to have sex with you.

Your boredom is starting to [censored] the rest of us off.

Many thank yous.

Only shows your weakness to play the man and not the ball, Jaded.

Can you point out, exactly, which Melbourne supporters are too accepting of which players' non-performance?

Can you point out, exactly, which Melbourne supporters are too accepting of which players' non-performance?

Many posters on this forum make excuses for players week-in week-out '45. Year-in, year-out.

People excuse poor skills, half-hearted efforts, white-flag hoisting, poor fitness, the list goes on and on. 90 losses in 120 games, most without a whimper.

This can't go on anymore. These players who have sullied the red and blue jumper must go.

Many posters on this forum make excuses for players week-in week-out '45. Year-in, year-out.

People excuse poor skills, half-hearted efforts, white-flag hoisting, poor fitness, the list goes on and on. 90 losses in 120 games, most without a whimper.

This can't go on anymore. These players who have sullied the red and blue jumper must go.

So tell me, how do you explain the losses then?

If you are going to say 'poor footballers', I think people realise we have a poor list. Acknowledging rubbish skills, crap efforts and poor fitness is acknowledging that the players aren't doing it for us. It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a million stupid threads and polls to bring to attention - people know this already!

So tell me, how do you explain the losses then?

If you are going to say 'poor footballers', I think people realise we have a poor list. Acknowledging rubbish skills, crap efforts and poor fitness is acknowledging that the players aren't doing it for us. It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a million stupid threads and polls to bring to attention - people know this already!

The problem needs to be acknowledged and brought into the open. I don't care if I am ridiculed for doing it by supporters who can't bear the truth.

We must stop living in denial at the MFC.

So tell me, how do you explain the losses then?

If you are going to say 'poor footballers', I think people realise we have a poor list. Acknowledging rubbish skills, crap efforts and poor fitness is acknowledging that the players aren't doing it for us. It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a million stupid threads and polls to bring to attention - people know this already!

Do they? Its been the same philosophy for over 4 decades now, so i wonder if people high up within iour club actually do know it.

So tell me, how do you explain the losses then?

If you are going to say 'poor footballers', I think people realise we have a poor list. Acknowledging rubbish skills, crap efforts and poor fitness is acknowledging that the players aren't doing it for us. It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a million stupid threads and polls to bring to attention - people know this already!

Actually Pass..IMO Melbourne's list isn't poor. Not great but not poor. Put Goddard on a HBF, Boak in the Guts and Clokey down with Clark. Clark/Jamar and Gawny back not to mention LJ (fingers and toes crossed) all of a sudden the list looks more than OK.

The problem needs to be acknowledged and brought into the open. I don't care if I am ridiculed for doing it by supporters who can't bear the truth.

We must stop living in denial at the MFC.

Mate it is in the open - I don't think you will find an MFC supporter in the entire world who will tell you we have a good list.

You are just continually shoving it under peoples noses unnecessarily. Changes will be made, so just have a bit of patience for a few months.

Do they? Its been the same philosophy for over 4 decades now, so i wonder if people high up within iour club actually do know it.

Apologies, by people I mean supporters and as supporters we don't have anywhere near as much control over the management of the list as RR suggests.

Actually Pass..IMO Melbourne's list isn't poor. Not great but not poor. Put Goddard on a HBF, Boak in the Guts and Clokey down with Clark. Clark/Jamar and Gawny back not to mention LJ (fingers and toes crossed) all of a sudden the list looks more than OK.

It is worse than poor at the moment. They are some big names and of course it will look a lot better with players like that, but getting all three of those guys is not really feasible, but we can dream! Hopefully with some good drafting, sensible delistings and trading and a couple of free agents we can turn it around pretty quickly.

Actually Pass..IMO Melbourne's list isn't poor. Not great but not poor. Put Goddard on a HBF, Boak in the Guts and Clokey down with Clark. Clark/Jamar and Gawny back not to mention LJ (fingers and toes crossed) all of a sudden the list looks more than OK.

So our list is OK we just need a bunch of players from other clubs who we will never get to make it better and need an injury prone giant and a freakish forward who may never play again to cement their roles and we'll be well on our way.

It is worse than poor at the moment. They are some big names and of course it will look a lot better with players like that, but getting all three of those guys is not really feasible, but we can dream! Hopefully with some good drafting, sensible delistings and trading and a couple of free agents we can turn it around pretty quickly.

Well I'm going to have a glass of Red and have a think about it. My point is subtle change can sometimes work wonders and if subtle change is all that's needed then the list is arguably not that bad.

Apologies, by people I mean supporters and as supporters we don't have anywhere near as much control over the management of the list as RR suggests.

Fair enough. But social media does bring us closer. This board would be monitored by the club to some degree.

Well I'm going to have a glass of Red and have a think about it. My point is subtle change can sometimes work wonders and if subtle change is all that's needed then the list is arguably not that bad.

I agree that subtle change can work but I think we have to be more brutal, a la Hardwick and Richmond a couple of years ago. Enjoy the red.